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#81 Chimaira_Devil_#9

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:08 AM

not trying to be funny but with players dying directly on the bench with no medical staff around, teams dying in sh!tty airplanes maybe a little bit less players would choose to cross oversea for a little more $$$ than in the NHL.


Your forgetting that for most of the guys, if not all of them that Russia and Europe is home and not overseas. Vasy was playing for his home town team.

Also a lot of them had their time in the NHL and were making a living at the end of their career back where it started. There are very few Ray Emery's. I am sure that if the majorty of them were offered NHL contracts they would have taken them.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:10 AM

It's still almost 20 years old and if proper maintenance is not performed, forget it.


True. And from the supposed witness report, it sounds more mechanical than a case of pilot error. Have there been any reports of what the weather was at the time of the crash?

Also just saw this:

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by samilepisto @samilepisto Ilta-Sanomat writes that the plane was taken into use in 1993 and was to be decommissioned at the beginning of October.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:17 AM

I think he declined one or didn't want to consider and had already had his heart set on Russia by the end of last season.


I see. I think I remember reading that. He seemed like a good prospect with a good attitude. Terrible news, this plane crash...

Edited by devlman, 07 September 2011 - 11:17 AM.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:18 AM

Your forgetting that for most of the guys, if not all of them that Russia and Europe is home and not overseas. Vasy was playing for his home town team.

Also a lot of them had their time in the NHL and were making a living at the end of their career back where it started. There are very few Ray Emery's. I am sure that if the majorty of them were offered NHL contracts they would have taken them.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:19 AM

Do the Devils still use that old 727?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Devils have a little bit of a scare just a few seasons ago. I gotta look into it but I think it may have been a rough landing or something.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:20 AM

Btw that plane looked lousy, just on that picture alone.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:23 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Devils have a little bit of a scare just a few seasons ago. I gotta look into it but I think it may have been a rough landing or something.



It was a game against Toronto if I remember right. I think something happened during landing but could be take-off. Was in the 09-10 season I believe.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:28 AM

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A list of the dead in the plane crush has just been released. Salei is NOT in it.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:31 AM

This from an aviation news site..."Russian news printed a witness report of the ATCO working the flight - he states that the airplane seemed to have power problems on ground already, accelerating very slowly and not leaving the ground until after the end of (3000m) runway, subsequently hitting a pole (possibly MM)."


Peoples lives are not worth meeting a deadline to be back on the ground in a different city. These companies need to go with their gut and keep the plane on the ground if they dont feel it is safe to go.

NHL.com tends to either word things very wrong or their writers misunderstand what they are analyzing. It looks like that particular plane they were on was built in 1993 but the model of aircraft was first introduced in 1980 with production ending in 2002. Since 1980, there have been 7 crashes out of a total of 178 built.


Thats what I got out of it. While the Yak-42 was produced from 79-02, I think this specific plane was built in 1993. As of TODAY there are 92 of these planes still in service around the world. I found this interesting:

Out of the 8 crashes involving this plane counting this specific crash with the team, 5 of the 8 flights crashed into mountains.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:34 AM

Wow, just..wow.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:36 AM

Really poor taste by the Pens and Crosby continuing with the presser.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:37 AM

Really poor taste by the Pens and Crosby continuing with the presser.


Agreed.

Another player has burns over 80% of his body, Crosby's fogginess no longer sounds so bad.

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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:41 AM

Really poor taste by the Pens and Crosby continuing with the presser.



I have to agree too. I was expecting that they would have at least postponed it a couple days.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:42 AM

Especially since this is just an update. If he was retiring or something like that, I'd give him a pass.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:42 AM

Really poor taste by the Pens and Crosby continuing with the presser.


Its Sidney Crosby....do you REALLY expect anything different from him? That franchise and Sidney himself think the world revolves around him.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:43 AM

This... I don't have the words. I'm at work sitting at my desk, and I'm almost in tears.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:43 AM

Really poor taste by the Pens and Crosby continuing with the presser.


Could not agree more. He's alive. These men aren't. Absolutely in horrible taste to have a press conference about his health at this time.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:44 AM

Disagree, an opening statement about the tragedies was made, it was all done in a respectful matter. I dunno, just don't think he's really doing anything that offensive by continuing with the scheduled presser
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:49 AM

Still this isn't really an urgent presser. Would have been better to wait till tomorrow.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:49 AM

Wow all these deaths in the past weeks. this is a terrible way to start the season. Damn. R.I.P. to Vasyunov and all the Lokomotivs.
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