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#221 NJDevs4978

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Posted 08 October 2011 - 11:31 PM

Don't forget his bonus 10 for trying to get Jagr to fight. So to sum it up, take a penalty, don't backcheck, and then try to get an old non-fighter to drop the gloves. Job well done.


lol I was wondering what he did to get sent off, since by that point I was getting cantankerous (in a funny way, not vulgar or threatening) and barely paid attention. If he tried to get Jagr to fight then maybe he's actually dumber than Clarkson. By that point I was hoping everyone would get themselves thrown out so we could all go home.

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Posted 08 October 2011 - 11:38 PM

If only we hadn't traded David Steckel.

...also, I'm beginning to think Amanda's kid is a curse on this team. Three regular season games, and they've been outscored 11-2 in those games. Poor kid's never even seen a Devils goal live (one was while we were walking around on the concourse and the other was after we'd left already).


I used to think I was. From 83-89 (age 5 - 11) I attended 14 games. They were all at home and all losses. After we left NJ, I never saw them win on the road (8 games), one of which was a game against the Lightning in 1995 (lol) and the Devils were down something like 4-0 in the 2nd period. My first Devils home win was in 2002 when I was here in NJ for a year and had seasons, which was nice for obvious reasons as we won the Cup that spring. Nevertheless, it was over a decade and 20+ games before I finally saw them win one damn game in person. My first road win was also in 2002.

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Posted 08 October 2011 - 11:44 PM

Mills went 10-1 on faceoffs tonight to lead the Devils in that category. Jacob Josefson was impressive 8-2 while Patrik Elias went 9-9 and Dainius Zubrus struggled at 2-7.


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Posted 08 October 2011 - 11:58 PM

Mills went 10-1 on faceoffs tonight to lead the Devils in that category. Jacob Josefson was impressive 8-2 while Patrik Elias went 9-9 and Dainius Zubrus struggled at 2-7.


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While watching the game I was surprised at the 2nd intermission stats. We weren't that far off statistically and I definitely noticed that we were leading in faceoffs.

Bad game, bad night, good Flyers team that already seemed to have their game legs. I think we will see a much different outcome Monday. I also am really high right now so that may have just improved my mood.
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 12:22 AM

Not the best of starts. Oh well. What can you say, the Flyers may actually be good this year.
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 12:30 AM

They blew and they deserve to be criticized, but I think some of the overreactions are ridiculous. It's one game.


Isn't this how LAST SEASON Started. "Oh don't worry, the Devils will turn it on and be in the playoffs..." Cue Johnny Mac being canned, cue: "So close, but no cigar", cue my prediction: Defense will suffer because of Kovalchuk. Wasn't Kovy a -3? Oh wait those stats are horrible and not a TRUE representation of how a player played. How many times did Kovalchuk just hop over the boards to accidentally be on the ice for a goal. I bet it ryhmes with "HERO"... How many times did Kovy 1/2 arse it back to get the puck or try to hook someone from teh point. Give it time and you'll see!

I predict one or the other is gone from the team by August of next year: Parise or Brodeur. NOT both, but one. We'll see though. My Magic Eight Ball keeps telling me to 'come back later.'
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 01:01 AM

Isn't this how LAST SEASON Started. "Oh don't worry, the Devils will turn it on and be in the playoffs..." Cue Johnny Mac being canned, cue: "So close, but no cigar", cue my prediction: Defense will suffer because of Kovalchuk. Wasn't Kovy a -3? Oh wait those stats are horrible and not a TRUE representation of how a player played. How many times did Kovalchuk just hop over the boards to accidentally be on the ice for a goal. I bet it ryhmes with "HERO"... How many times did Kovy 1/2 arse it back to get the puck or try to hook someone from teh point. Give it time and you'll see!

I predict one or the other is gone from the team by August of next year: Parise or Brodeur. NOT both, but one. We'll see though. My Magic Eight Ball keeps telling me to 'come back later.'


This is really myopic. This season is 1 game old. We saw the Devils turn it on in the 2nd half the season with almost the same roster. Your post is mostly a diatribe against Kovy. While he did not play particularly good at all, he wasn't the only bad player tonight. The team was sluggish and not prepared.
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 01:05 AM

Hey, they actually played ten awesome minutes in the season opener last year! And got a point, they only got 20 others in the first half. :lol:

I'm pretty sure the second game will be better than last year's second game, though.
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 01:37 AM

I'm usually an optimist, but that was just bad and it makes me worried. I understand this is our first game and Philly played on Thursday, but we had nothing going on. We also had a hard time scoring in the preseason, and this is largely the same team that was last in goals last year.

Its infuriating because on paper we should be able to score goals, but its just not translating. Sure, this is game 1, but even a team having an off night on opening day should be able to muster more chances than we did. It seems like there is an underlying fundamental problem in this team's ability to produce offense, and it's one which transcends the "our shooting percentage eventually has to improve" argument.
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 03:11 AM

Im not worried, its one game under a new coach with a new system. Not going to jump off any bridges yet. Give it a few more games
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 03:18 AM

OK there are 81 games left. Marty had a good night. The Devils were not prepared to play an AHL team let alone the Flyers, who fault is that? Loss of one center doesn't make an entire team not be ready to play. PP wasn't there. Hitting wasn't there. Excuses: 1) Flyers played a game already, BS 2) Refs were mot that good, BS 3) Zajac was missing, BS the team wasn't ready to play NHL hockey, period. Marty showed up but everyone else took the night off.

Who's afraid of taking a hit, the Devils. Who doesn't want to hit, the Devils. Who doesn't want to come down the lanes and crash the net, the Devils. Who can't pass from the defensive zone to the offensive zone, the Devils. We played exactly as we did during pre season games, the Devils. Who doesn't have a PP, the Devils?

It's only game 1, by the time the team gets it together Marty will be tired.
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 04:08 AM

Well the Flyers are a good team, and, so far, the Devils are not a good team, so a 3-0 score doesn't surprise me. I only just watched the highlights this morning as I'm in Europe for the year, so I couldn't see the whole game but it looked like it was a really badly-played defensive game. Marty had a good night, but the Devils seemed to be on the backcheck all night and even when they were they weren't really on the puck. Looks like there's not much chemistry on D and they need some more communication. I think it'll be interesting to see how Pete DeBoer is able to work with them this year.
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 07:40 AM

OK there are 81 games left. Marty had a good night. The Devils were not prepared to play an AHL team let alone the Flyers, who fault is that? Loss of one center doesn't make an entire team not be ready to play. PP wasn't there. Hitting wasn't there. Excuses: 1) Flyers played a game already, BS 2) Refs were mot that good, BS 3) Zajac was missing, BS the team wasn't ready to play NHL hockey, period. Marty showed up but everyone else took the night off.

Who's afraid of taking a hit, the Devils. Who doesn't want to hit, the Devils. Who doesn't want to come down the lanes and crash the net, the Devils. Who can't pass from the defensive zone to the offensive zone, the Devils. We played exactly as we did during pre season games, the Devils. Who doesn't have a PP, the Devils?

It's only game 1, by the time the team gets it together Marty will be tired.


I don't buy they weren't ready to play last night.

They were ready to play the best game this team could play. Newsflash: They aren't very good, and the Flyers are an extremely solid team.

Look at our forward lines...they are mismatched, mislotted, undersized, VERY young,and so on. The Flyers have no rookies taking on big roles, in fact they have guys in their primes taking on big roles, or solid reliable vets.
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 08:24 AM

I don't buy they weren't ready to play last night.

They were ready to play the best game this team could play. Newsflash: They aren't very good, and the Flyers are an extremely solid team.

Look at our forward lines...they are mismatched, mislotted, undersized, VERY young,and so on. The Flyers have no rookies taking on big roles, in fact they have guys in their primes taking on big roles, or solid reliable vets.


M. Read: 15:54
S. Couturier: 14:00

anything else you want to get wrong? Or do you want me to mention all the other players under the age of 25 playing big roles on the Flyers? Or people over 35? In fact, the Flyers have a lot of players decidedly not in their primes on their team, which is why trading Richards and Carter was so bizarre.

I only saw the first period, they were not good, but the Flyers are not 'extremely solid', nor is NJ 'not very good'.
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 08:28 AM

wellpppp that sucked ass. i was afraid no one was gonna find a way to put the puck in the net. we looked disoriented.. and i hope its just cuz it was our first game... but still, it was against a flyers team that i would have loved to not get completely abused by
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 08:29 AM

M. Read: 15:54
S. Couturier: 14:00

anything else you want to get wrong? Or do you want me to mention all the other players under the age of 25 playing big roles on the Flyers? Or people over 35? In fact, the Flyers have a lot of players decidedly not in their primes on their team, which is why trading Richards and Carter was so bizarre.

I only saw the first period, they were not good, but the Flyers are not 'extremely solid', nor is NJ 'not very good'.


Bizarre in a way...but while the Flyers were changing everything up front, they didn't touch their defense and improved their goaltending by leaps and bounds. And if they had one area to trade from, it was scoring.

I don't know how you can say the Flyers aren't solid with that defense/goaltending and still a lot of good scoring forwards (not to mention actual grit and physicality in their top three lines, a concept foreign to us). Maybe they won't be solid in two-three years depending on what happens on D but they're plenty good enough now. As far as the Devils, all I'm gonna say is they BETTER win tomorrow, at home against a clear non-playoff team. Or I'm gonna be on the 75-80 point we're doomed bandwagon.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 09 October 2011 - 08:31 AM.

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 08:37 AM

M. Read: 15:54
S. Couturier: 14:00

anything else you want to get wrong? Or do you want me to mention all the other players under the age of 25 playing big roles on the Flyers? Or people over 35? In fact, the Flyers have a lot of players decidedly not in their primes on their team, which is why trading Richards and Carter was so bizarre.

I only saw the first period, they were not good, but the Flyers are not 'extremely solid', nor is NJ 'not very good'.


C'mon Tri. Don't throw minutes and me suggest these guys are playing important roles. We're asking Palmeri, Henrique, Josefson, Teddy, Mills to do something, anything.

I consider guys like Voracek, Simmons, Jvr, Giroux who YES are all under 25 - which used to be considered not in their primes...it is now. We have Parise, who's playing with linemates who don't mesh with him. We also have Kovalchuk...who doesn't mesh with anyone ever it seems, and is great defensively.


These guys are light years ahead of where the Devils are.
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 08:39 AM

and why couldn't clarkson put simmonds on his ass??
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 08:40 AM

Bizarre in a way...but while the Flyers were changing everything up front, they didn't touch their defense and improved their goaltending by leaps and bounds. And if they had one area to trade from, it was scoring.

I don't know how you can say the Flyers aren't solid with that defense/goaltending and still a lot of good scoring forwards (not to mention actual grit and physicality in their top three lines, a concept foreign to us). Maybe they won't be solid in two-three years depending on what happens on D but they're plenty good enough now. As far as the Devils, all I'm gonna say is they BETTER win tomorrow, at home against a clear non-playoff team. Or I'm gonna be on the 75-80 point we're doomed bandwagon.


Nailed it.

Our D is still horrible. I'm happy we have Larsson.

Salvador and Volechnkov couldn't move the puck at all. In a perfect world we want Tallinder with Larsson, but can't - because Fayne can't keep be totally trusted yet to be with Greene.

Greene needs to be protected too, but again, we need to ask more of him because the depth is oy.
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Posted 09 October 2011 - 08:51 AM

C'mon Tri. Don't throw minutes and me suggest these guys are playing important roles. We're asking Palmeri, Henrique, Josefson, Teddy, Mills to do something, anything.


You've named 2 players who started out on the 3rd line, and two guys who started out on the 4th line. Meanwhile, I cite two guys who played a quarter of the game and they're not playing important roles. Tedenby played under 10 minutes last night.

I consider guys like Voracek, Simmons, Jvr, Giroux who YES are all under 25 - which used to be considered not in their primes...it is now. We have Parise, who's playing with linemates who don't mesh with him. We also have Kovalchuk...who doesn't mesh with anyone ever it seems, and is great defensively.


The idea that Parise and Elias don't mesh is totally insane and I suggest remembering the 07-08 season for a refresher. Sykora might not mesh with those two, I can't speak to that, but the two best players on the line have definitely been very successful together.

These guys are light years ahead of where the Devils are.


Nonsense. The notion that NJ's defense is terrible is laughable too.

Edited by Triumph, 09 October 2011 - 08:52 AM.

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