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#21 ATLL765

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Posted 20 October 2011 - 03:55 AM

I watch all sorts of racing and enjoy them for their differences but there are a lot of people out there, especially in the states that say formula one racing is boring because there isn't a lot passing on the track and that qualifying determines the race winner more then anything else(which Vettel has backed up this year in f1)


There's been more passing in recent years than there has been in the past and while Vettel has dominated nearly always from pole, the last race being the exception, this was truly a perfect season(so far) for Red Bull Racing. You really shouldn't look at this year as the norm though, last year at this time, there were 4 guys with a chance to win it all, but RBR just blew everyone away this year. I mean, Vettel won most of these races without any real challenge, so they truly just have had the best car, always getting pole was just a byproduct of such.

As for what you said about Wheldon testing the next gen chassis, I actually read an article about him and the chassis in Road&Track or Car&Driver, one of the two, I mix them up, but point is, it was weird reading it now knowing what happened. With any type of open cockpit car you're gonna have problems like this. With the head exposed, it's always a safety issue. In F1 a couple years ago, Filipe Massa was struck in the head by a spring that fell off another car's suspension IIRC, which could have been worse than it was. I hope that IndyCar can learn from other open wheeled racing formulas, such as F1, seeing as they have a really good safety record, having gone without a driver death for 17 years. Indy cars are a bit smaller than F1 cars, but maybe they can make the chassis/safety cell of the car a bit wider and seat the driver a tad lower, as to try to avoid this type of injury in the future.
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 03:43 PM

I wasn't trying to compare the style of racing, more so that this could be used to push for better safety as was the case after the 94 season in F1.

I actually was talking to a friend of mine about this and how I thought that oval track racing was partly to blame for multi-car crashes like this and is imo boring anyways. I don't understand the entertainment in watching cars drive in circles like that, so I though this could open up debate on whether to continue to race at venues with oval tracks. I don't really follow IndyCar racing, but I will watch the races if it's a road race, but not if it's an oval track.

As I said before, I just hope that his can be used to push for better safety in the next gen chassis, which Wheldon tested not long ago and is slated to be in use next season.



When I compared the two races styles, was to make a point that no matter how safe the car is if you put them, to race at the conditions we saw last sunday, the chances are we gonna see a major crash and probably resulting in severe injuries or worse. Yes I'm all for R&D of the safety in the car, but still think the problem is not the car itself is those high-banked track.

The problem for Indy if they ditch ovals they gonna compete directly with the F1. They can however ditch those High-Banked ovals, and race only at regulars ovals, and increase the numbers of street courses.

Talking about street course i don't see the point to make a street course in São Paulo, they should put the race in Rio de Janeiro... for one São Paulo already has F1, second Rio de Janeiro is much more turist city then São Paulo, making that a much better product to sell to audiences, and thus probably increasing the number of viewers for Indy Races

But Again i don't know who came up with the deal to race in São Paulo, if was Indy itself or the city or state of São Paulo, or even maybe the Major Sponsor the Itaipava Beer
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Posted 20 October 2011 - 04:24 PM

I can see why the IRL goes to these tracks, they need to get a bigger fanbase, the series will go bankrupt if they went to all road courses. The first ten laps of that Las Vegas race was the best racing I have ever seen from any open wheel series. It was very exciting but dangerous. I just hope the new 2012 Dallara chassis will fix the issue of the cars wheel hopping and taking flight so they can go to these tracks.
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Posted 22 October 2011 - 11:52 PM

Talking about Formula!1 they are rumors backed by the Wall Street Journal That New Jersey will have its own Gran-Prix it will be held on West New York and Weehawken. So effing awesome to have a street circuit here in New Jersey. :cheers: :cheers: :boogie: :boogie:

http://jalopnik.com/...-jersey-in-2013

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Posted 23 October 2011 - 05:37 AM

RIP Dan Wheldon, and now RIP Marco Simoncelli.

Such a gut wrenching accident at Sepang MotoGP tonight :(
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 10:04 AM

RIP Dan Wheldon, and now RIP Marco Simoncelli.

Such a gut wrenching accident at Sepang MotoGP tonight :(


It looked like he passed out or something before being hit/run over. Unreal... RIP
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Posted 23 October 2011 - 12:45 PM

RIP Marco Simoncelli - Like I said before I only follow NASCAR but I have a ton of respect for all forms of racing. I have a friend who is aspiring to race motorcycles and he's shown me tons of races and DVD's on the sport. Always amazed me how skilled these guys are and how this doesn't happen more often. Only 24, tragic loss.
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