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Current Devils need unselfish, team approach Joe Nieuwendyk brought


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#21 Vic Rattlehead18

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 06:43 AM

i don't even think giveaways are a meaningful stat because of scorer bias. my point is that kovalchuk being a leader in giveaways means he gets the puck a lot. i wouldn't be surprised if kovalchuk has the puck more often than anyone in the league.


It may be a meaningless stat but its a meaningful play. You can't score or generate scoring when you're too busy giving it away because you think you can carry into the zone against both defensemen.
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#22 DaneykoIsGod

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 07:26 AM

yep, he leads the league in giveaways.


I see a lot of good players on that list.
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 07:52 AM

My first thought on this wasn't Kovy, it was 'Patty always sounds like the Captain when he's interviewed' :)
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 09:46 AM

This is just a "kiss Niewy's ass piece" the team doesn't need joe and didn't even really need him back then. A great guy and a wonderful hockey talent but not any kind of Devil prototype -- and the whole thread is off track now anyhow... altogether pointless waste of my time mis-titled tribute.
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#25 Jerrydevil

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 10:26 AM

Did he get a giveaway when he flubbed the penalty shot last year? :D
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Posted 31 October 2011 - 12:08 PM

Kovy definitely isn't having issues due to being too selfish in the offensive zone. As someone said earlier, the only "selfish" thing I can think of that he does, is rush the puck up the entire sheet of ice by himself only to stop 5-10ft into the offensive zone to look for the pass. He seems to do this 90% of the time and I think he's making it too easy for the defender to defend against him because they know what he's going to do. I wish he would let someone else take the puck and rush into the zone and allow himself to float in a bit later and wait for a pass to rip home for a goal every once and a while.

Kovy is pure sniper and I want him to be that player, not try to force himself to play a different game. I think he could be more effective if he worried less about making the play happen himself and instead allowed a play to develop in the offensive zone and worry about where to be to finish that play with a sweet snipe. If he did that, I think he'd be more difficult for the other team's defense to handle, as he would be free to roam the zone without the puck and it would allow him more space to set up for the one-timer or the quick wrist shot when a pass comes his way rather than him trying to set up someone else in a position where they then only look to pass right back to him. Because that play is so obvious to the other team, he's either smothered by two defensemen or the pass gets picked off by an opposing player who watched video before the game and is seeing the same play develop right in front of him and he knows all too well what to do to prevent that play from being made.
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#27 Jerrydevil

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 03:14 PM

I think he could be more effective if he worried less about making the play happen himself and instead allowed a play to develop in the offensive zone and worry about where to be to finish that play with a sweet snipe. If he did that, I think he'd be more difficult for the other team's defense to handle.


Maybe someday.
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