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[Chimaira_Devil_#9]

Please don't assume, just ask... Hey did you mean it like this... (and then insert how you understood it). These forums give people NO tone so it is easy to see how people take a look at one thing and then see another.

I stand by the rest of what i said, the people who collect game worn jerseys seem to have an attitude that someone owes them a favour and everything should be done on their terms.

[Random Poster]

I stand by the rest of what i said, the people who collect game worn jerseys seem to have an attitude that someone owes them a favour and everything should be done on their terms.

That's because you know nothing of the game worn hobby or the collectors/collections in them.

You ASSume alot and you'd come off as someone who wouldn't care either way.

[Chimaira_Devil_#9]

That's because you know nothing of the game worn hobby or the collectors/collections in them.

You ASSume alot and you'd come off as someone who wouldn't care either way.

Your doing it again.

[Random Poster]

Your doing it again.

Dude, do me a favor and yourself a favor before you get more collectors here down your throat.

Quit while your ahead (or behind).

[Chimaira_Devil_#9]

OH that is priceless... I'm not Jason Seidl and if you look at my Devils collection it is probably pretty small considering I sold off a lot of it and it was never that big. I don't need to have everything or most. I'm content with what I have.

Entitlement? I am by far one of the last people who thinks he is entitled to anything. Please state where I said I am entitled to anything. Let's see those facts! I can hardly wait.

The Devils really made the decision for me NOT to bid by having them signed by the team. Those signatures really made it easy to NOT even pay attention. I had money to blow and would've for the right two players, but again the Devils lost out on my money and bids.

Why do people associate those scribbles on the front to be worth SO MUCH more than they really are w. You know players just play 'spiralgraph' with the signatures so some you have no idea who the heck it is.

In these tough economic times, I wish to thank the Devils for making my decision far easier than it should've been. Now I'm able to buy something really nice and not some crappy two game patch that honors the memory of two deceased players who basically got the same treatment as Pat Burns (a few games or rememberance) when a patch all-season would've been approved.

So what the Devils had to give you something to spend your money on?

Edited by Chimaira_Devil_#9, 07 November 2011 - 11:23 AM.

[Chimaira_Devil_#9]

Dude, do me a favor and yourself a favor before you get more collectors here down your throat.

Quit while your ahead (or behind).

What before you start the childish name calling again.

I don't know the collectors on here, i do know some and i understand whats involved.

The fact is that some people on here jump on anyone who comments on things that is going on in the collectors world, and come off with the high and mighty attitude.

Its happened before, and no doubt it will happen again.

[Random Poster]

So what the Devils had to give you something to spend your money on?

It's his money. He can spend it anyway he chooses for whatever his reasons are as a collector (or fan). Whether or not you agree/disagree/indifferent is not his problem. It's yours.

[Random Poster]

What before you start the childish name calling again.

I don't know the collectors on here, i do know some and i understand whats involved.

The fact is that some people on here jump on anyone who comments on things that is going on in the collectors world, and come off with the high and mighty attitude.

Its happened before, and no doubt it will happen again.

First, you don't know the collectors on here or the hobby, but you still feel qualified to inquisition. Knowing "some" collectors isn't knowing the hobby or enough to throw generalizations out.

I'll say it again. Collectors that often take offense are taking offense to the small minority of those who do not know what they are talking about. Those people feel the need to talk without dealing in FACTS, assume and point fingers especailly in something they are not involved in or have no interest in. Then those same people do not care to listen to FACT or learn anything.

The collectors here have helped many people on this board and done deals with many people on this board. Our reps as sellers/buyers/collectors are about as good as you can get. But, i am sure you already knew that.

Edited by SJP20, 07 November 2011 - 12:20 PM.

[hurricane1091]

Paying 1000 beans for a sweaty jersey off Fayne's back...nice.

[Devilsfan118]

Ill venture into one of these dangerous collector's threads just to re-ask a previous question..

Why do the team signatures lessen the value of the jersey?

[DevsMan84]

Ill venture into one of these dangerous collector's threads just to re-ask a previous question..

Why do the team signatures lessen the value of the jersey?

Even though I am not much of a collector, I will venture a guess.

I think it has to do with the signatures taking away from the game-worn uniqueness of the jersey. What I mean is that with the signatures the jersey looks less like it did when it came right off the player's back than some jersey you could get anywhere and have the team sign it over the years.

I guess it is kinda like what they say about antiques and that you should never ever get them cleaned unless you have spoken to a professional about what it will do to the value. A lot of times if you clean something that is really old, it will lessen the value because it doesn't have the natural age that comes with the item that makes it unique and valuable.

[Devils Pride 26]

Ill venture into one of these dangerous collector's threads just to re-ask a previous question..

Why do the team signatures lessen the value of the jersey?

Because these people are psychopaths.

[Random Poster]

Ill venture into one of these dangerous collector's threads just to re-ask a previous question..

Why do the team signatures lessen the value of the jersey?

Serious collectors like the jersey to come to them like it came off the ice. (washed, too, for health reasons although the Devils didn't wash the Retro jerseys in 2010 and 2011).

Adding a signature changes the jersey from the way it left the ice. It's adding something that wasn't there or should be a part of the jersey on the ice. Why spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on a game worn jersey to autograph it when you can buy a non-gamer for way way less and sign it?

As far as value goes, a signature can and will devalue the jersey. Same thing holds true in sports cards when a player has a rookie card auto'd. You're taking an item thats held to a different standard and modifying it, wether it's a rookie card or game worn jersey. That's the hobby. That's the way it's been before and will be after we're all gone. It's a practice that's been followed. Don't shoot the messengers!

IMO, it begins and ends with preference. It's just something that should be thought through first. Unless you're buried with the jersey, you're going to take a bath on it resale wise should you need to ever sell. Since life is unpredictable at best, it is a smart thing to keep in mind. If you feel the need to sign a gamer, most serious collectors will accept a jersey signed on the fight strap or behind the crest.

I've bought signed gamers for well below market values and had the auto's removed safely and without damage. You just can't do that with these types.

[Random Poster]

I'll say it again. Collectors that often take offense are taking offense to the small minority of those who do not know what they are talking about. Those people feel the need to talk without dealing in FACTS, assume and point fingers especailly in something they are not involved in or have no interest in. Then those same people do not care to listen to FACT or learn anything.

Paying 1000 beans for a sweaty jersey off Fayne's back...nice.

Exibit A.

Because these people are psychopaths.

Exibit B.

Edited by SJP20, 07 November 2011 - 12:55 PM.

[hurricane1091]

unknown poster paid 1000 beans for Pandolfo's game worm jock strap, pay him no mind.

[Devils Pride 26]

Haha just messing around. I could never imagine getting into this kind of stuff, but whatever floats your boat.

[DevsMan84]

unknown poster paid 1000 beans for Pandolfo's game worm jock strap, pay him no mind.

Been to any sold out trenton devils games this year?

Edited by DevsMan84, 07 November 2011 - 01:48 PM.

[Devilsfan118]

Ah okay, thanks for the answers. Makes sense

[Chimaira_Devil_#9]

First, you don't know the collectors on here or the hobby, but you still feel qualified to inquisition. Knowing "some" collectors isn't knowing the hobby or enough to throw generalizations out.

I'll say it again. Collectors that often take offense are taking offense to the small minority of those who do not know what they are talking about. Those people feel the need to talk without dealing in FACTS, assume and point fingers especailly in something they are not involved in or have no interest in. Then those same people do not care to listen to FACT or learn anything.

The collectors here have helped many people on this board and done deals with many people on this board. Our reps as sellers/buyers/collectors are about as good as you can get. But, i am sure you already knew that.

No i don't really know them, just lead by your shining example of being totally offended by everything.There really isn't anything here other than my oppinion.

I will keep this simple, the post that i initially responded to came across as pathetic, for the reasosn that i mentioned,i get the general feeling from reading around these forums there is a certain elitist attituded that hangs over your particular hobby. Anoyne who is not a collector can't say anything. If you do, you are wither accused of not understanding or you get called an a$$hole.

Basically you have completely lived up to expectation in this thread.

And thats the end of it.

[Random Poster]

No i don't really know them, just lead by your shining example of being totally offended by everything.There really isn't anything here other than my oppinion.

I will keep this simple, the post that i initially responded to came across as pathetic, for the reasosn that i mentioned,i get the general feeling from reading around these forums there is a certain elitist attituded that hangs over your particular hobby. Anoyne who is not a collector can't say anything. If you do, you are wither accused of not understanding or you get called an a$$hole.

Basically you have completely lived up to expectation in this thread.

That's great. Instead, you decided that whatever has been said, for better or worse, wasn't good enough and continued on to the point of now calling others "elitist".

You already assumed wrongly Chorske was talking about something else which he had to correct you on. So right off the bat, you came out strike one. On top of the finger pointing and assumptions also comes along a pre-concieved notion of collectors on your end. Why? Most likely because we have to constantly argue and battle with people who would rather clown then learn/understand which is more often then not a losing proposition.

And thats the end of it.

Are you sure? I would hate for you to call us/me more judgmental things based on what we do with our money.

Edited by SJP20, 07 November 2011 - 04:24 PM.