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[EdgeControl]

I'm a relatively new Devils fan, and I wanted Kovy on this team. But it was Parise that got my Devils loyalty going and his olympic performance renewed my love for the game itself. that and then skating with my son which is a joy after being away from the game for a long time.

I really hope we do everything we can financially to keep him in red and black, he is the heart of this team

hopefully langs hasnt totally turned him off of Lou, and once he gets paid more than Kovy any ego involvment (which may not even be a factor)will be healed

getting into the playoffs and getting fans in the seats will go a long way

[SterioDesign]

i think (or probly i'd like to think) that Zach is an hard worker who wants to be part of a solution... not leave cause its not looking too good ahead... or get smaller cap friendly long term deal cause they see a bright future in the organization

i mean there's really good players resigning long term with teams who almost never made the playoffs, on top of my head Rick Nash, Mikko Koivu, etc while some others are more selfish and jumps from team to team to win like Hossa, Heatley...

im pretty sure Zach is a loyal guy who really wants to play with the same team his whole career... but thats if he doesnt let Don Meehan get into his head too much though, cause money talks

[njdevsftw]

and once he gets paid more than Kovy

You think he should be payed more then Kovy?

[EdgeControl]

You think he should be payed more then Kovy?

Heck yeah, on a yearly salary basis. 6+ mil is hardly a back breaker.
but he needs to keep scoring or racking up points as he has historicly

Kovy's deal is hardly the killer some are making it. and in 2012 there will be a bunch of money coming off the books in the NHL I don't see us keeping him for less

[Devs1965]

I hate to say it but since Travis went down, Zach has become less consitant, or is it the lack of playing with a year off either way you look at it. He needs to pick it up or in my opinion he is trade bait come the deadline.

[adam85491]

You think he should be payed more then Kovy?

no way.

[Devlin]

So pregame comentary tonight on ZP have him being resigned at 50/50 chance...I would hate to have yet another young solid player get moved. Flash back to Brendan Shanahan back in the day.

Edited by Devlin, 16 November 2011 - 07:31 PM.

[Random Poster]

So pregame comentary tonight on ZP have him being resigned at 50/50 chance...I would hate to have yet another young solid player get moved. Flashes Brendan Shanahan back in the day.

Milbury and Jones are like the studio version of "dumb and dumber". Milbury is "dumber", BTW. Actually, it's a pretty close race with Jones, but Milbury always gets the nod for his shoe attack at MSG.

[MadDog2020]

So pregame comentary tonight on ZP have him being resigned at 50/50 chance...I would hate to have yet another young solid player get moved. Flash back to Brendan Shanahan back in the day.

That was just Keith Jones' opinion. In other news, I think Zach is a 70/30 chance to stay. So that should ease everyone's minds.

[Devlin]

Lmao...good point guys!

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[Devilsfan118]

I hate to say it but since Travis went down, Zach has become less consitant, or is it the lack of playing with a year off either way you look at it. He needs to pick it up or in my opinion he is trade bait come the deadline.

If anything it'll help us resign him. Or, at least, lessen his value across the league. He needs that solid center to support him and help him produce (sound familiar?)

[mrthemike]

Milbury is a full on retard. I have to mute the TV when he opens his trap.

[ATLL765]

I know it's been said that giving Zach the captaincy might have been done with the hope that it might help him decide to stay in NJ rather than relinquish that type of role on our team, but I just don't see Lou allowing someone to gain the captaincy without being very sure that player is going to stay around. I don't think he gets that C if Lou thinks he's not here next year.

[Masked Fan]

Yes. Zach will be a Devil 4ever


No. Quinn and pk's avy's continually confuse me as to who posted .... til I read the post that is ...

[Devil Dan 56]

Milbury is a full on retard. I have to mute the TV when he opens his trap.

Yeah, he really is a moron. I still can't believe the way he ruined that Roenick moment after Chicago won the cup.

[EdgeControl]

Yeah, he really is a moron. I still can't believe the way he ruined that Roenick moment after Chicago won the cup.

How about ruining an entire franchise!!!??? the guy wouldn't know a good hockey player if it fell on him!

[Devil Dan 56]

How about ruining an entire franchise!!!??? the guy wouldn't know a good hockey player if it fell on him!

Oh, his mastery of the Islanders is legendary. He easily set that franchise back 15 years.

When I mentioned the Roenick thing, I was just referring to him as a TV commentator.

[Brick Pig]

You think he should be payed more then Kovy?

To my mind Parise should absolutely be paid more than Kovy. I'm not a Kovy hater. I like him and I'm glad we have him, but aside from being a scorer I don't notice him doing much else. On the other hand, Parise is great playmaker even when he isn't scoring. The guy works his ass off every time he hits the rink, and makes everybody around him better. He may never be the scorer that Kovy is, but in my mind he's far and away the better player.

Edited by Brick Pig, 17 November 2011 - 02:19 PM.

[Quinn01]

To my mind Parise should absolutely be paid more than Kovy. I'm not a Kovy hater. I like him and I'm glad we have him, but aside from being a scorer I don't notice him doing much else. On the other hand, Parise is great playmaker even when he isn't scoring. The guy works his ass off every time he hits the rink, and makes everybody around him better. He may never be the scorer that Kovy is, but in my mind he's far and away the better player.

I wouldnt say that Parise is a better player, they are different in many ways but yes I would say that Zach is a more rounded player then Kovy is. Parise will never be the stick handler that Kovy is though. They both have their strengths and weaknesses.

[Brick Pig]

Parise will never be the stick handler that Kovy is though. They both have their strengths and weaknesses.

I agree that they both have their weaknesses, but I think Kovy has a lot more of them than Zach does. And while I read all the time about what great stick skills Kovy has, it seems to me like he turns the puck over just about every other time he touches it. I know the conventional wisdom is to say that he turns it over so much because he's doing such amazing things with it. But to me, if he's turning it over all the time, that means he's not really doing amazing things with it, but rather he's attempting to do amazing things and failing.

Again, I like having Kovy on the team and I don't discount what he has to offer. I just don't think he offers as much as Parise does. He may very well score more than Parise, but that's only one part of the package.

Edited by Brick Pig, 17 November 2011 - 04:31 PM.