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#41 HellOnICE

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 04:42 PM

Also...what kind of contract can the Devils offer given their ownership status.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 04:46 PM

LA has the room, but it will be a tight squeeze. Right now they're at the cap, but they have some contracts coming off the books. They weren't able to get it done with Kovalchuk.

Detroit has the room, but they desperately need defensemen and not forwards. Also, Zach would have to ask himself, is this a team that's really going places if Lidstrom retires? (And the answer is, yeah, kinda, but that's because of their forwards and forward prospects.)

And NYR we already know all the issues.

Edited by Triumph, 21 November 2011 - 04:53 PM.

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Posted 21 November 2011 - 04:49 PM

Also...what kind of contract can the Devils offer given their ownership status.


Oh, sure. And I think it's less than 50/50 that Parise is here next year, my point is just that Parise might have to compromise on either dollars or location, I'm not sure he'll be able to get both.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 04:52 PM

LA has the room, but it will be a tight squeeze. Right now they're at the cap, but they have some contracts coming off the books. They weren't able to get it done with Kovalchuk.

Detroit has the room, but they desperately need defensemen and not forwards. Also, Zach would have to ask himself, is this a team that's really going places if Lidstrom retires? (And the answer is, yeah, kinda, but that's because of their forwards and forward prospects.)

And NYR we already know all the issues.


I think LA will move mountains to get Zach, they weren't willing to do that with Kovy and it cost them, they've been looking for a LW ever since. It'd really chap my hyde if the Kings got him after all the nonsense that happened last year with them, and they're a real threat.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 04:54 PM

How much can the devils offer him with the cap
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 04:58 PM

How much can the devils offer him with the cap


I'll give him my Jersey Cash 5 winnings.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 05:10 PM

yea even if you say the Kings are too close to the cap, all they have to do, is offer a trade. if LA can eventually afford the contract, all they have to do is contact NJ. Obviously i dont want that to happen, but its still always possible

yea even if you say the Kings are too close to the cap, all they have to do, is offer a trade. if LA can eventually afford the contract, all they have to do is contact NJ. Obviously i dont want that to happen, but its still always possible
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 05:25 PM

How much can the devils offer him with the cap


Depends on how some of the other free agents shake out, but you could work in 9 or 10 million for him. It would be crazy to do that, but you could.
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Posted 21 November 2011 - 05:39 PM

How much can the devils offer him with the cap


assuming the CBA doesn't change the world, the salary cap is not really the issue. the devils financial situation and internally imposed cap as well as parise's feelings are what matters here.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 12:00 AM

parise saying he wants to contend for the cup is as predictable as saying i want to win the lotto...the devils might be in it in the next few just as much as other teams minus a healthy pitt's...if he wanted he would take a smaller deal with them....he's not preforming at a lvl at which demands will most likely be...locking up him into a long term deal at a large cap hit isn't a good idea
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 12:03 AM

parise saying he wants to contend for the cup is as predictable as saying i want to win the lotto...the devils might be in it in the next few just as much as other teams minus a healthy pitt's...if he wanted he would take a smaller deal with them....he's not preforming at a lvl at which demands will most likely be...locking up him into a long term deal at a large cap hit isn't a good idea


Well....I dont know about that. He has a 1-30 chance to the cup.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 12:23 AM

Of course Parise wants to win the cup. Waht is important is if he wants to lead his team to a cup or just be a part of a cup winning team.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 03:28 AM

Parise's injury and then zajac the year after is such an horrible timing at the worst possible time...

Take toews out of chicago for a whole year then kane the year after... Then see how they did

But all together plus the financial problems and all its just a perfect storm to push zach out....

If he somehow stays im gonna be some impress with the guy


The worst thing is that if we lose him... Yeah sure we have some money to spend but theres nothing too exciting on the market this summer t hat could ease my pain and it doesnt mean we could land him

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 08:41 AM

Before the start of the season, the idea of Parise bolting was almost too much to stomach. Now...not so much.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 08:59 AM

If he stays I'd be hard pressed not to schedule his number retirement immediately -- even if it would be (:pray: knock wood) about 15 years in advance.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 09:03 AM

Also - can we all just agree that barring Parise saying straight out "I will not be back please trade me now" Lou will NOT trade the guy no matter where the team is at the deadline. Parise is better than anything out there I think Lou feels - as he ALWAYS feels about our impending UFAs. He never dumps a valuable player. Of course he never makes huge splashy Free Agent signings either so... I guess never say never.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 10:17 AM

Also - can we all just agree that barring Parise saying straight out "I will not be back please trade me now" Lou will NOT trade the guy no matter where the team is at the deadline. Parise is better than anything out there I think Lou feels - as he ALWAYS feels about our impending UFAs. He never dumps a valuable player. Of course he never makes huge splashy Free Agent signings either so... I guess never say never.


He should be traded. Letting him walk for nothing shouldn't be an option. This is the exception to the Devils' rule, because the team is not a contender anymore.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 10:39 AM

I disagree -- if there is a chance to keep him I approve of lou trying to take it. And I'm fine with Lou sticking to a hard and fast value -- if you can't trust those then you can't trust anything.

If the Devils aren't contenders then no one is. Take off your dusk tinted glasses.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 11:49 AM

I disagree -- if there is a chance to keep him I approve of lou trying to take it. And I'm fine with Lou sticking to a hard and fast value -- if you can't trust those then you can't trust anything.

If the Devils aren't contenders then no one is. Take off your dusk tinted glasses.


ARE YOU SAYING I'M TOO NEGATIVE, PK?! :D

I like to consider myself more of a realist. But if the Devils keep Parise and make a run (win two playoff rounds) and/or end up re-signing #9, I welcome your "I told ya so."

Edited by Jerrydevil, 22 November 2011 - 11:50 AM.

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 12:00 PM

Parise isn't an exception to the same things that happen to every player. Maybe we have taken his talent for granted and now he is going through a rough patch. I'm not going to turn on him now just because he is having a rough start to a season after being named captain and coming off a season long injury the year before.
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