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#1 Mitico12

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 05:54 PM

We saw Volchenkov take a hard hit from Matthias. Had Daneyko taken that same hit, and sustained "lascerations," would he have come back for the 2nd period?

Just a fun topic to discuss...

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#2 NewarkDevil5

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 06:09 PM

I don't know that Dano would've come back from that if they'd been up 3-0 after 20 mins. If they were down in the game I could see Dano coming back, but not if they're handling it without him.
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 06:09 PM

Volchenkov is tough as nails in my mind. To block as many shots as he does..have to be fearless.

If the lacerations were severe enough to keep him out, Im gonna go ahead and assume they were some serious cuts
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Posted 22 November 2011 - 06:11 PM

Yes, but only between the years of 1991 and 2003, since it would take an inspiring speech by Scott Stevens to get him back on the ice.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 06:22 AM

We saw Volchenkov take a hard hit from Matthias. Had Daneyko taken that same hit, and sustained "lascerations," would he have come back for the 2nd period?

Just a fun topic to discuss...

Let's chat away...


Not a fun topic, trainers often times won't let players return these days. You risk damaging a valuable asset. It is also clear you don't know half the story.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:11 AM

Isn't there some mythicized story about Dano where he got like 12 root canals during intermission and played the next period or something?
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 08:44 AM

here's my opinion....if the a-train and dano crashed into each other i imagin it would be something like this....


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Posted 23 November 2011 - 10:07 AM

do you really think that this is some player who can't play with pain or are you commenting on the era? volchenkov is one of the toughest guys in the league. he's fragile in that he gets hurt a fair amount but they're legit injuries. this guy isn't sitting out because of a hangnail.

by the way - it's not the facial cuts that kept him out. it was the whiplash to his neck that did. if you recall, the took a puck in the face earlier this year, got 12 stitches to his face and was back out there.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 10:17 AM

volchenkov is one of the toughest guys in the league. he's fragile in that he gets hurt a fair amount but they're legit injuries. this guy isn't sitting out because of a hangnail.


dito this and i think its unfair to put him up against Dano in one instance and even era's its different

this should be added for the people for the people who need a second look

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVpgV8ttCqs&feature=feedu
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 11:14 AM

Define charging? More than 3 strides? He deliberately skated in from the blueline to hit the Tank up high.

Just sayin'. Maybe I misunderstand the rule.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 11:27 AM

do you really think that this is some player who can't play with pain or are you commenting on the era? volchenkov is one of the toughest guys in the league. he's fragile in that he gets hurt a fair amount but they're legit injuries. this guy isn't sitting out because of a hangnail.

by the way - it's not the facial cuts that kept him out. it was the whiplash to his neck that did. if you recall, the took a puck in the face earlier this year, got 12 stitches to his face and was back out there.


I was referring to the "era" of hockey and how Dano would compare...
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 12:55 PM

My big thing that needs to be noticed on this play is that at least SOMEONE took at run at Shawn Mattias. And that player was Kovy. I absolutely love it when Kovy gets all fired up like that. I feel like there's actually some passion for the game and the team this year.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 12:56 PM

Define charging? More than 3 strides? He deliberately skated in from the blueline to hit the Tank up high.

Just sayin'. Maybe I misunderstand the rule.


and we get a penalty for Kovy giving a shove to the pussycat. That was fcking stupid officiating.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 04:05 PM

Define charging? More than 3 strides? He deliberately skated in from the blueline to hit the Tank up high.

Just sayin'. Maybe I misunderstand the rule.


I didn't notice that when I saw it last night, but looking at it again here, you can definitely see him lock on target from the blue line. Usually a player will take those strides, then glide into the check, but he seemed to take 3 or 4 strides right up to when he hit Volchenkov. Charging is a very undercalled penalty. I see it happen, not often, but it does happen and it seems it rarely gets called for some reason.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 04:10 PM

Would Dano have played? I don't know. We need to remember it's November. I think in April/May/June Volchenkov doesn't miss a shift. In November, it's more important to keep his back healthy for the long haul. Whether it hurt us in that game doesn't matter.
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Posted 23 November 2011 - 05:09 PM

After seeing the clip I agree with Shanahan not suspending him. The injury/cut that Volchenkov experienced was due to the fall to the ice, not the hit.

That said, it should have been a penalty for charging.

Giving Kovalchuk a penalty for running into Matthias and falling down should be an embarrassment to the official that called it.

Edited by Exit56, 23 November 2011 - 05:10 PM.

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Posted 23 November 2011 - 10:21 PM

Volch said he blacked out for a minute or so, and I think there's a new rule that if there is ANY chance a player MIGHT have a concussion he CANT return to the game. Maybe thats why he didn't return
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Posted 28 November 2011 - 09:53 AM

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