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#141 Pepperkorn

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 03:50 PM

Refs beat the Devils.

Oh but this is just sour grapes and I'm a big homer
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 03:52 PM

"They made their own call". That's what Zach just said. Good for him. I wish he went off though. You could tell he was holding back.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 03:52 PM

I disagree. What happens if a player falls down and on his way to break his fall, he swipes the puck in with his glove, should that count? I don't think the rule cares about intent or not.


If a player is mid-fall, and it hits his glove and deflects in? That..should count, no? Perhaps we're imagining this differently.

I don't care what the puck goes in off of, if it inadvertantly hits some body part (and the player didn't seem aware of the location of the puck) I feel like it should count. :noclue:
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 03:52 PM

The skate propelled the puck into the net because Parise lifted his foot to change position and when he put it back down, he struck the puck with his skate and it went in.

That's gonna be no goal like 95% of the time. As soon as they showed that angle, I knew it was coming back.

Edited by mikeford, 26 November 2011 - 03:54 PM.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 03:53 PM

I wanna see the coach press conference..
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 03:54 PM

Wow. I'm at of loss for once guys. I hate Kovalchuck and the refs. Kovalchuck is the worst thing that has ever happend to the New Jersey Devils. Remember this post 10 years from now when we've won nothing.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 03:55 PM

Elias put it best. he did say he didnt see what toronto saw and that they dont agree with the decision. BUTTT that we should not have even been in that position. we should have sh!t on that pansy team from long island
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:01 PM

i literally have to play relaxing music right now because i am on fire


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I'm so angry I can't do anything but apathetically sit in my sofa.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:04 PM

Well I've gotta go do something else, being this angry over a sports game cannot be healthy.

Later all.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:04 PM

Today is one of those times you just let loose and hand the league two blank checks. One for today and the other for the eventual next time. Make sure both checks are drawn from the account of Ilya Kovalchoke.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:06 PM

Parise is pissed and he has to play pissed for the next couple of games. play angry and play with some fight. and you know what, get kovy fired up too, zach, because this lazy gameplay has to stop here. we have way too much talent, turn this around.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:06 PM

I disagree. What happens if a player falls down and on his way to break his fall, he swipes the puck in with his glove, should that count? I don't think the rule cares about intent or not.


If the player falls on the puck and it hits their glove and goes in, then yeah I say that's a goal. Distinct motion implies that there was intent. Why would you be around the net "distinctly kicking" at nothing? Yeah, the puck was around his skate and his skate turned. His stick was also there and he was also falling backwards. My opinion is that at very best, the play was extremely borderline, in which case video judges should defer to the on-ice ruling. Naturally, they didn't. Now, they're backing up their decision by saying that the puck was "propelled in by the skate"? Since when is that in the rule book? Scoring off the skate is perfectly allowed, and this explanation is not good enough for me. The NHL needs to show that they understand their own rule book, because after this and the Briere stop from earlier this season, I'm beginning to doubt that they do.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:10 PM

Well I've gotta go do something else, being this angry over a sports game cannot be healthy.

Later all.

im right there with ya.. i gotta leave this thread because i have to stop thinkin about it...

decker, out.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:13 PM

I seriously can not believe how incredibly pathetic Kovalchucks passing skills are. I bet nobody is ignoring my NEGATIVE posts on his erratic play now. He just cost us a game in my opinion we NEEDED to have. The entire league is way to close this year. EVERY point matters. The fact we didn't go 6 points for 6 points against these pathetic teams is inexcusable. The Devils scored a total of 5 goals vs. the 3 worst teams in 3 games. Congrats, our team is awesome. And enough about Kovalchuck not fitting in on RW. He should be able to play fvcking goalie for the amount he gets paid. He just doesn't fit in with the New Jersey Devils all together; RW has nothing to do with it.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:21 PM

http://www.nhl.com/i...ost.htm?id=4366

Read the comments ... all the fans around the league agree that was a good goal and not a "distinct" kicking motion. One even points it out how the league decided not to quote the distinct part of the rule. They even point out a previous example that was allowed to stand and would be considered more of a motion than this.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:21 PM

Kovalchuk's passing skills? How about the entire team tonight, passing behind each other or to the skates. Thought Kovy had a good game besides that turn over, which was also a nice play by Grabner. Sick of our fans using him as the scapegoat for every game. And that was a real crap pass to Larsson on our first goal, right?

Edited by third man in, 26 November 2011 - 04:24 PM.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:21 PM

I seriously can not believe how incredibly pathetic Kovalchucks passing skills are. I bet nobody is ignoring my NEGATIVE posts on his erratic play now. He just cost us a game in my opinion we NEEDED to have. The entire league is way to close this year. EVERY point matters. The fact we didn't go 6 points for 6 points against these pathetic teams is inexcusable. The Devils scored a total of 5 goals vs. the 3 worst teams in 3 games. Congrats, our team is awesome. And enough about Kovalchuck not fitting in on RW. He should be able to play fvcking goalie for the amount he gets paid. He just doesn't fit in with the New Jersey Devils all together; RW has nothing to do with it.

Explain January 1st through the end of the season last year then, when he put up 21 goals in 45 games.

Lemaire came back, we played 7 out of 8 games like terrible sh!t and then barely lost for the rest of the year. All the while Kovalchuk was sh!tting on people. Bad fit with the organization my ass, the organization is just using him wrong.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:24 PM

Refs beat the Devils.

Oh but this is just sour grapes and I'm a big homer


The refs, Toronto and Kovy. He deserved every last boo.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 26 November 2011 - 04:25 PM.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:26 PM

Kovalchuk's passing skills? How about the entire team tonight, passing behind each other or to the skates. Thought Kovy had a good game besides that turn over, which was also a nice play by Grabner. Sick of our fans using him as the scapegoat for every game. And that was a real crap pass to Larsson on our first goal, right?


Yeah, he set up both goals, I thought he played an otherwise impressive game on the RW, aside from that turnover.

Quite an unfortunate turnout, but I guess the score could have easily been 4 or 5-2 if it wasn't for Marty. He had a save tonight that looked like the best of the year so far.
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Posted 26 November 2011 - 04:30 PM

It was a total of 4 goals in 3 games. They were awarded a phantom goal for winning the SO against Columbus. Eliminating such phantom goals, they've scored 52 goals in their 22 GP on the season. Yes, this is bad, but what else in new? And that's including better-than-expected performances from the likes of Zubrus, Sykora, Clarkson, and even Elias, really.

As for the call against Parise...what else is new? When do those calls EVER go the Devils' way?

For whoever was expecting the Devils to come away with six points easily from those two teams, I'm not sure what team you've been watching. The Devils aren't that much better than those teams, as was shown these past three games.

Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 26 November 2011 - 04:32 PM.

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