This is not a rant thread. The PP speaks for itself and usually when teams are doing terrible overall, coach change works. Why isn't Lou firing Oates? Is he waiting for Xmas eve?
Fire Oates
Started by ZeroGravityFat, Dec 01 2011 10:38 AM
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 10:38 AM
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 10:43 AM
I fully endorse this thread. Get Oates outta here already.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 10:46 AM
How often are assistant coaches fired? I mean, it seems like they either leave at season's end or go out when the head coach gets axed, no?
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 10:48 AM
I think Deboer should take over how the PP works. Hard to believe all Oates was brought in for was the PP and he can't get it working. No point in bringing in another assistant, just tell Deboer to figure it out and tell Oates to take a backseat role.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 10:52 AM
We weren't exactly a top-rated powerplay before Oates. That being said, yeah, let him go.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 10:53 AM
Do you really think this is Oates' fault? Guys like Elias, Parise, Kovalchuk, Zubrus, Sykora, and so on need to be taught how to perform on the power play? Give me a break. Lou wouldn't have kept him with the new coaching change if he wasn't an asset. He can only teach these guys so much. Our power play is embarrassing because our team treats it like they are getting root canal.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 10:58 AM
Do you really think this is Oates' fault? Guys like Elias, Parise, Kovalchuk, Zubrus, Sykora, and so on need to be taught how to perform on the power play? Give me a break. Lou wouldn't have kept him with the new coaching change if he wasn't an asset. He can only teach these guys so much. Our power play is embarrassing because our team treats it like they are getting root canal.
it's not a fault thing, it's like what i said, if players are not responding, coach change is necessary. i'm sure we can try a handful of people if we felt like it on a trial basis from within the organization or bring someone new in from minors or other leagues.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:00 AM
Then we have to double point to Larry. He cant get us out of the zone (for about 7 years now) and he cant quarterback the PP.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:03 AM
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:07 AM
Remember back when Gomez use to dice the other team up through the middle and get the puck settled on the PP. Man that was cool
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:08 AM
This is not a rant thread. The PP speaks for itself and usually when teams are doing terrible overall, coach change works. Why isn't Lou firing Oates? Is he waiting for Xmas eve?
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:17 AM
it's not a fault thing, it's like what i said, if players are not responding, coach change is necessary. i'm sure we can try a handful of people if we felt like it on a trial basis from within the organization or bring someone new in from minors or other leagues.
I'm sorry but if this is YET ANOTHER coach that this coach killing team isn't responding to, then the bulk of the blame gets directed at Lou.
The last time the Devils performed well offensively? Sutter. He wasn't a players coach because he actually made them accountable and made them a tough team to play against.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:18 AM
it's not a fault thing, it's like what i said, if players are not responding, coach change is necessary. i'm sure we can try a handful of people if we felt like it on a trial basis from within the organization or bring someone new in from minors or other leagues.
Name me one instance where an assistant was replaced in-season without the head coach getting canned or other extenuating circumstances? (Cunniff getting cancer). It just doesn't happen in the NHL.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:30 AM
In Montreal earlier this yearName me one instance where an assistant was replaced in-season without the head coach getting canned or other extenuating circumstances? (Cunniff getting cancer). It just doesn't happen in the NHL.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:31 AM
Have any of you guys ever seen the Devils practice their PP ?? just wondering if its even poss with Lou and his secret ways.
But I wonder if they start practicing in the offensive zone right away,
because they cant even breakout with 1 forchecker on them, and getting into the offensive zone is next to impossible for them.
But I wonder if they start practicing in the offensive zone right away,
because they cant even breakout with 1 forchecker on them, and getting into the offensive zone is next to impossible for them.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:33 AM
Name me one instance where an assistant was replaced in-season without the head coach getting canned or other extenuating circumstances? (Cunniff getting cancer). It just doesn't happen in the NHL.
Because ultimately, in coaching, it's the responsibility of the head coach...
When coaches get fired, the new coach evalualtes his assistants, or brings in his own, etc.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:34 AM
At least we seem to be not awful on faceoffs anymore 
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:38 AM
At least we seem to be not awful on faceoffs anymore
Our FO win % is 46.9% right now. That places us 29th out of 30 teams this season.
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Posted 01 December 2011 - 11:39 AM
In Montreal earlier this year
Good call. Forgot about that.
http://espn.go.com/n...ach-perry-pearn
Canadiens GM Pierre Gauthier said in a statement that he had offered a different role with the team to Pearn, who was responsible for running the team's power play. Montreal, which is off to its worst start in 70 years, is 3 for 32 with the man advantage.
If he was fired for the sake of PP proficiency, it seems to have worked:
PP with Pearn: 3-for-32 (.094)
PP w/out Pearn: 6-for-27 (.222)
PP on the season: 9-for-59 (.153)
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