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#21 Onddeck

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 03:54 PM

this really is an interesting topic because of the way our lines have been playing each other. the Parise-Henrique-Kovy line and Sykora-Elias-Zubrus lines are playing so well its so difficult to imagine wanting to split them up. I am pretty much 100% in that I want Henrique to Center the 1st line with Parise. IF we take Kovy off that line(which is debatable) then give him Zajac. Do we move Elias from C?

It's a lot to think about but yes, all of a sudden we might have an overload on Centers. I dont want anyone to touch Henrique in a trade. but the idea of JJ or Zajac and a pick or w/e is interesting because we could get a scoring D or even a goalie for our future because eventually the goalie position is going to be a huge priority
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 10:38 PM

this really is an interesting topic because of the way our lines have been playing each other. the Parise-Henrique-Kovy line and Sykora-Elias-Zubrus lines are playing so well its so difficult to imagine wanting to split them up. I am pretty much 100% in that I want Henrique to Center the 1st line with Parise. IF we take Kovy off that line(which is debatable) then give him Zajac. Do we move Elias from C?

It's a lot to think about but yes, all of a sudden we might have an overload on Centers. I dont want anyone to touch Henrique in a trade. but the idea of JJ or Zajac and a pick or w/e is interesting because we could get a scoring D or even a goalie for our future because eventually the goalie position is going to be a huge priority


There's no way we trade Zajac, Parise's bff when Parise is a UFA this year. Plus, if we trade Zajac and JJ doesn't pan out or Henrique is a one hit wonder, we're fvcked down the middle. Patty isn't all that young, so we can't rely on him to be a #1 center if sh!t goes bad with young guys. I would like to keep JJ and see if we can move Zubrus or Tedenby and a pick and/or prospect for a d-man, but I really don't know what will happen once everyone is healthy, I just can't imagine that someone won't be traded since it doesn't make sense to keep Teddy or JJ on the 4th line when that would do nothing but stunt their growth.
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Posted 25 December 2011 - 01:47 AM

There's no way we trade Zajac, Parise's bff when Parise is a UFA this year. Plus, if we trade Zajac and JJ doesn't pan out or Henrique is a one hit wonder, we're fvcked down the middle. Patty isn't all that young, so we can't rely on him to be a #1 center if sh!t goes bad with young guys. I would like to keep JJ and see if we can move Zubrus or Tedenby and a pick and/or prospect for a d-man, but I really don't know what will happen once everyone is healthy, I just can't imagine that someone won't be traded since it doesn't make sense to keep Teddy or JJ on the 4th line when that would do nothing but stunt their growth.

at this point though, you have to realize that Henrique has at least proved himself in the same way that Josefson has. He has just one more year on Henrique and obviously that year doesn't even measure up to Henrique's year this year in terms of points. You gotta realize that Henrique is actually having a monster breakout year
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Posted 25 December 2011 - 09:09 AM

at this point though, you have to realize that Henrique has at least proved himself in the same way that Josefson has. He has just one more year on Henrique and obviously that year doesn't even measure up to Henrique's year this year in terms of points. You gotta realize that Henrique is actually having a monster breakout year


Henrique has shown far more than Josefson has - that's not a knock on Jake. It's hard to prove yourself when you're injured. I doubt JJ will be traded, I think the Devils are far too high on him and he appears to fit in with their longterm plans. If anyone is going to be traded, it'll be one or more of a pick, Tedenby and a D prospect.
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Posted 25 December 2011 - 10:49 AM

Henrique has shown far more than Josefson has - that's not a knock on Jake. It's hard to prove yourself when you're injured. I doubt JJ will be traded, I think the Devils are far too high on him and he appears to fit in with their longterm plans. If anyone is going to be traded, it'll be one or more of a pick, Tedenby and a D prospect.

Ok yea, I'd be fine with that. I would just want to make sure that the package we put together can bring in a nice caliber D man or goalie because its not depth of average players that we want, its a vauable player we need
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Posted 26 December 2011 - 10:21 PM

at this point though, you have to realize that Henrique has at least proved himself in the same way that Josefson has. He has just one more year on Henrique and obviously that year doesn't even measure up to Henrique's year this year in terms of points. You gotta realize that Henrique is actually having a monster breakout year


I absolutely believe that Henrique is the real deal, but that being said, nothing is assured in the NHL. The last thing we need to do is trade our best natural center and then have Henrique to end up like Gionta where he has one monster year and then his consistent production becomes far less than what was put up that one year. And again, Zajac and Parise are really close, so if the goal is to make Parise happy in order to resign him, then trading Zajac is a misguided move.

I agree with the poster before me that said it'll probably be, if anyone, Tedenby, a pick and/or prospect. Maybe we move Zubrus since he most likely would be the guy to drop to the 3rd line center position when Zajac is moved back up into the top 6, which is inevitable.

Then when JJ comes back, I really don't think we want him toiling on the 4th line for more than a couple games to get his legs and timing back, so where does Zubrus fit in after that? Imo, he doesn't really fit in since we pay him decent money, it doesn't make sense to leave him on the 3rd line and bump Clarkson or Teddy to the 4th, so either Teddy or Zubrus would be the most likely pieces to be traded, along with a pick and/or prospect in order to bring back a top 4 d-man who can play well offensively.
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 09:52 AM

Can't we just send Josefson to the minors?
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 10:12 AM

Parise-Henrique-Clarkson
Kovalchuk-Zajac-Zubrus
Elias-Josefson-Sykora
Boulton-Carter-Janssen

1. Parise and Henrique together are dynamite and Clarkson has earned top minutes. That line would be hell to play against.
2. Kovalchuk's best days as a Devil came with Zajac and Palmieri, and -- on his worst days -- Zubrus is 10x the RW that NaPalm will ever be.
3. Have the wings of the A-Line get Josefson flying.
4. Roll three lines and only use the 4th if some skulls need cracking.
5. Tedenby looks like he needs the kind of attention and reps that only Albany can provide. If the rest of the forwards are healthy, send him down.
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 10:50 AM

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:09 AM

josefson will see doc today to see if he can clear for skating per Rich.
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:17 AM

At this point in time, I say trade him for a defenceman or a couple draft picks. His value is still semi-high right now and he seems to be out of the line up more often than in. We are already looking decent down the middle for the first time in years with Zajac, Henrique, Elias. It just seems like a lost cause to be putting a talented forward like JJ on the 3rd or 4th line.
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:24 AM

JJ is SO young (20)
we need him
becouse age of elias goes to an end
we should no trade him and tedenby becouse they are young and talanted. we can give them nomanycash contracts and give a time for them.
one elias, sykora, zubrus couldn`t play well - that will be time for swedes.
becouse we haven`t another potential young players
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:38 AM

Kovalchuk, regardless if he is playing RW is still most dangerous cutting to the left picking up the late man. I say move him back to the LW and make 3 potent lines. I'm not sure if I want Henrique moving from center, he is so effective offensively in the middle of the ice, sure his defense is suspect but he is only 21 years old.

The problem now becomes, we have 4 potential centers or a glut of LWs. You could keep Kovalchuk on the right side and do something like that.

Parise-Zajac-Kovalchuk
Sykora-Elias-Zubrus
Henrique-Josefson-Clarkson
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:44 AM

At this point in time, I say trade him for a defenceman or a couple draft picks. His value is still semi-high right now and he seems to be out of the line up more often than in. We are already looking decent down the middle for the first time in years with Zajac, Henrique, Elias. It just seems like a lost cause to be putting a talented forward like JJ on the 3rd or 4th line.


This year is an example of why you need depth down the middle. Boom - Zajac down. Boom - Josefson's out. We're damn fortunate we had Elias who could slip into the C1 spot with effort and then Henrique came up and blew our minds.

Elias is 35 and Josefson is 20. Josefson is an NHL forward but he'll (hopefully) have 150 more games under his belt when he surpasses Elias on the depth chart. Retaining Josefson means we won't have a gaping hole at center when Elias can't hack it anymore. It gives the franchise some stability down the middle.

If the problem is that we're wasting a talented forward like him on the 3rd (not a waste IMO) or 4th (a waste) line then send him to Albany and let him assume the role of a go-to guy there.
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Posted 27 December 2011 - 05:27 PM

Here is an update from TG:

Center Jacob Josefson received clearance from the doctor today to begin skating, Devils general manager Lou Lamoriello said.

He’s a little more than two months into his recovery.

“Now, it will be a process to see when he takes contact and when he doesn’t,” Lamoriello said.

Josefson actually started skating lightly three weeks ago and then stopped because the Devils wanted to play it safe and make sure he was in no risk of breaking his clavicle again.

“They didn’t want him to fall and all of that stuff, so I just pulled him,” Lamoriello said.

There is also an update on Greene in the blog.
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 01:20 AM

Here is an update from TG:


There is also an update on Greene in the blog.

alright alright, good stuff. a good thing about the fact that its a collarbone injury is that it has nothing to do with his legs. although its not with contact, at least he can get his feet back under him and up to speed at least a little bit
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 02:51 AM

Parise-Henrique-Clarkson
Kovalchuk-Zajac-Zubrus
Elias-Josefson-Sykora
Boulton-Carter-Janssen

1. Parise and Henrique together are dynamite and Clarkson has earned top minutes. That line would be hell to play against.
2. Kovalchuk's best days as a Devil came with Zajac and Palmieri, and -- on his worst days -- Zubrus is 10x the RW that NaPalm will ever be.
3. Have the wings of the A-Line get Josefson flying.
4. Roll three lines and only use the 4th if some skulls need cracking.
5. Tedenby looks like he needs the kind of attention and reps that only Albany can provide. If the rest of the forwards are healthy, send him down.
6. Cup.


There's no way in the world we have a top line consisting of a rookie and Clarkson, even if Parise is on it, that line will get caught way too much. Plus, there's no way that Clarkson can handle 20 mins per night, that's way too much for him.

I'd like to see this happen:

Parise-Zajac-Henrique
Kovy-Elias-Sykora
Zubrus-Josefson-Clarkson
Sestito-Carter-Janssen/whoever

I'd send Teddy down if we can't make room for him in the top 9, but if a trade is made that involves Zubrus maybe, then he can take his spot on the 3rd line. Also, if Henrique isn't playing well at wing, then move Kovy to his spot at RW and push Elias to LW, with Henrique centering him and Sykora.

I think JJ will be fine on the 3rd line and I don't think it will be a waste to have him there as he's not played a significant amount of time in the NHL yet because of his injury this year and the broken thumb last season. So, leave him on the 3rd line, see how he does and if he deserves it, move him up to RW with Elias and put Sykora on LW with Zubrus as his center with Clarkson on the 3rd line for a few games to see how that works.
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Posted 28 December 2011 - 03:12 AM

There's no way in the world we have a top line consisting of a rookie and Clarkson, even if Parise is on it, that line will get caught way too much. Plus, there's no way that Clarkson can handle 20 mins per night, that's way too much for him.

I'd like to see this happen:

Parise-Zajac-Henrique
Kovy-Elias-Sykora
Zubrus-Josefson-Clarkson
Sestito-Carter-Janssen/whoever

I'd send Teddy down if we can't make room for him in the top 9, but if a trade is made that involves Zubrus maybe, then he can take his spot on the 3rd line. Also, if Henrique isn't playing well at wing, then move Kovy to his spot at RW and push Elias to LW, with Henrique centering him and Sykora.

I think JJ will be fine on the 3rd line and I don't think it will be a waste to have him there as he's not played a significant amount of time in the NHL yet because of his injury this year and the broken thumb last season. So, leave him on the 3rd line, see how he does and if he deserves it, move him up to RW with Elias and put Sykora on LW with Zubrus as his center with Clarkson on the 3rd line for a few games to see how that works.

why would you split henrique and parise up if henrirque doesn't play well at wing. he is doing a fantastic job centering parise, why would you disrupt what is arguably the best thing the devils have seen this year? why don't you let Zajac center Kovy and bring Zubrus up to play RW with Parise and Henrique on the first line

Edited by Onddeck, 28 December 2011 - 03:13 AM.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:27 AM

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 10:44 AM

JJ is skating for the first time since the injury.
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