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#341 thelastonealive

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:21 PM

Yeah, we can pick apart our team til we're blue in the face (...and a lot of people already have, I'm sure), but godDAMN Boston is just a steamroller right now.

That's at least 15 unanswered goals.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:23 PM

With respect to Brodeur, it's awfully simplistic to look at the final score and talk about him letting in a bunch of soft goals. After the first goal against in the third, the whole team just seemed to have given up. Hell, I thought they had quit in the second, but they killed off that late penalty and seemed to have gotten a boost from it. But I remember being shocked that a couple more of Boston's shots didn't go in (and that was because of Marty). Not that he had a great game, but come on...

Oh, and there's less than 9 minutes left in the Calgary Boston game now, and it's 9-0 Boston. Like I said before, the Bruins are beasts who are gonna boot stomp everyone they face right up until they play Vancouver again, probably, in a rematch of last year (which should be kinda fun to watch.. hopefully the Vancouver PD keeps the idiots from giving Vancouver another black eye, regardless of what happens).
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Of course, that's barring an upset, which is always a possibility in the playoffs. The Devils are a great candidate to pull off the "Cinderella run" in the second season.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:36 PM

ahhh according to TG Bruins are 23-3-1 not 23-2-2... my bad
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:15 PM

I wouldn't worry about it. One extra loss is fairly meaningless when we're talking about a record that's > .700 (!)
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:52 PM

On this year's team, I don't think of Larsson as a #7 defenseman. he's not top 2 or 3 either, by any means, but... the #7 defenseman is a part time player, which is not at all where Larsson is or should be. He's not playing terrifically, but... 7th defenseman? Really? Not to me.
He certainly would be a #1 defenseman in Albany, but I said earlier why I don't think that's a good idea.


Are you not getting my point. Volchenkov, Greene, Fayne and Tallinder are all better then Larsson. Salvador has been playing better then Larsson and is a key piece of our PK. Foster sucks but if he is a fixture on the PP I doubt he comes out. If we are healthy there is a good chance there is no room for Larsson who only plays 5 on 5 and he isn't doing that well.

Edited by Jas0nMacIsaac, 05 January 2012 - 10:52 PM.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 12:41 AM

I looked at Larsson's stats and he's got 2 goals and 11 assists for 13 points. I think that leads the defense. I'm curious as to what happened to the composure and calm we saw in the beginning of the season.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:19 AM

I looked at Larsson's stats and he's got 2 goals and 11 assists for 13 points. I think that leads the defense. I'm curious as to what happened to the composure and calm we saw in the beginning of the season.


He is 19 and ran into the rookie wall and bounced off of it. Coaches also have film on him so they are starting to learn his tendencies.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:26 AM

Volchenkov, Greene, Fayne and Tallinder are all better then Larsson.


I don't agree with this. Volchenkov has been hurt, and will be again I'm sure, for one thing. And don't even get me started on Fayne. Green needs to come back as well. But I'm assuming that you're saying that when everyone is healthy, but I still disagree. Besides that, the larger managerial concern here is to get the kid who's (more than likely) going to be a superstar as much ice time as is reasonable. Plus, even with everyone healthy, you've gotta give some guys (including Larsson) some rest.

Besides, I've made a case before that it'd be a good idea for this team to dress 7 defensemen, and I think that's still true. What would you rather have, Janssen or a 7th defenseman dressed?

That being said, someone from the defense corp is ripe to be traded.

Edited by ohms law, 06 January 2012 - 02:28 AM.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 04:23 AM

I don't agree with this. Volchenkov has been hurt, and will be again I'm sure, for one thing. And don't even get me started on Fayne. Green needs to come back as well. But I'm assuming that you're saying that when everyone is healthy, but I still disagree. Besides that, the larger managerial concern here is to get the kid who's (more than likely) going to be a superstar as much ice time as is reasonable. Plus, even with everyone healthy, you've gotta give some guys (including Larsson) some rest.

Besides, I've made a case before that it'd be a good idea for this team to dress 7 defensemen, and I think that's still true. What would you rather have, Janssen or a 7th defenseman dressed?

That being said, someone from the defense corp is ripe to be traded.


If they were going to use a 7th defensmen in the lineup I think Taormina is by far the better choice at this stage in their careers. Taormina is an upgrade over anyone on the PP (Oates will figure it out soon) and can play on the PK. He is more dynamic late in games when offense is needed and has shown to be pretty effective 4 on 4. Larsson is an average 5 on 5 defensmen, he doesn't do much for the team at the moment.

Do I agree that Janssen or Boulton deserve to play in the NHL every game, not in the very least. My opinion on the 4th line means nothing, however, since Deboer has the mindset that the 4th line must hit, be angry and be able to fight. Given our current organizational depth charts I believe the 4th line should be Veilleux-Carter-Zharkov. Hell, when Josefson is back you can get two weeks of a Veilleux-Josefson-Zharkov line which would absolutely murder other teams 4th lines.

I'm not going to mention anything else on the defense because clearly, I think your out to lunch on that topic.

Edited by Jas0nMacIsaac, 06 January 2012 - 04:24 AM.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 07:58 AM

Yeah, we can pick apart our team til we're blue in the face (...and a lot of people already have, I'm sure), but godDAMN Boston is just a steamroller right now.

That's at least 15 unanswered goals.


I knew they were doing well, but didn't full grasp just HOW well.

They've won 9 of their last 10, outscoring opponents 49-13 over that span. That's practically averaging a final score of 5-1 every night for 10 straight games. Absolutely nuts.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:33 AM

I don't agree with this. Volchenkov has been hurt, and will be again I'm sure, for one thing. And don't even get me started on Fayne. Green needs to come back as well. But I'm assuming that you're saying that when everyone is healthy, but I still disagree. Besides that, the larger managerial concern here is to get the kid who's (more than likely) going to be a superstar as much ice time as is reasonable. Plus, even with everyone healthy, you've gotta give some guys (including Larsson) some rest.

Besides, I've made a case before that it'd be a good idea for this team to dress 7 defensemen, and I think that's still true. What would you rather have, Janssen or a 7th defenseman dressed?

That being said, someone from the defense corp is ripe to be traded.


Larsson isn't ready for the nhl. His bad decision making and INCREDIBLY slow skating shows it. I'm starting to think his immobility was mistaken for calm, patient demeanor. Taormina is more ready for the nhl than him and should be in the lineup. Send larsson down to get those major learning minutes where it doesn't matter if his bad turn overs cost the team the game.

I don't agree with this. Volchenkov has been hurt, and will be again I'm sure, for one thing. And don't even get me started on Fayne. Green needs to come back as well. But I'm assuming that you're saying that when everyone is healthy, but I still disagree. Besides that, the larger managerial concern here is to get the kid who's (more than likely) going to be a superstar as much ice time as is reasonable. Plus, even with everyone healthy, you've gotta give some guys (including Larsson) some rest.

Besides, I've made a case before that it'd be a good idea for this team to dress 7 defensemen, and I think that's still true. What would you rather have, Janssen or a 7th defenseman dressed?

That being said, someone from the defense corp is ripe to be traded.


Larsson isn't ready for the nhl. His bad decision making and INCREDIBLY slow skating shows it. I'm starting to think his immobility was mistaken for calm, patient demeanor. Taormina is more ready for the nhl than him and should be in the lineup. Send larsson down to get those major learning minutes where it doesn't matter if his bad turn overs cost the team the game.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:58 PM

I'm not going to mention anything else on the defense because clearly, I think your out to lunch on that topic.

Wait, I'm the one who's "out to lunch" for supporting what the Devils are actually doing?
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 02:46 PM

FYI, from the Star-Ledger today, Pete DeBoer says:

We like our top six (players). I think we're getting regular production out of that group. If not actual prodcution, then they're a factor in the game every night," he said. "And the bottom six, there's no secret. You see Boston. Their bottom six guys factor in the game every night. Against us. I watched them play Calgary.

"We have to get not just production, but some offensive zone time, momentum. That's what we're looking for out of that group."


So... we're not the only ones noticing that our fourth line is sucking wind out there.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 04:18 PM

FYI, from the Star-Ledger today, Pete DeBoer says:



So... we're not the only ones noticing that our fourth line is sucking wind out there.


He created this whole problem by cutting Zharkov due to his lack of oomph. Then again, Lou signed two players incapable of playing at the NHL level. When every other team is getting rid of enforcers Lou signs them.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:12 PM

FYI, from the Star-Ledger today, Pete DeBoer says:



So... we're not the only ones noticing that our fourth line is sucking wind out there.


They have enough talented players to make a solid 3rd and 4th line. Not sure what he is trying to do by sitting Tedenby and playing Boulton and Janssen every night. Sounds insane.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:25 PM

I looked at Larsson's stats and he's got 2 goals and 11 assists for 13 points. I think that leads the defense. I'm curious as to what happened to the composure and calm we saw in the beginning of the season.


Thats exactly what I am wondering.I hope this isnt a long term thing we are dealing with and its unfortunately due to the fact that he has alot going on in his personal life, majorly the loss of his grandmother.
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