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#61 overtime98

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 01:57 PM

Nash's money seems most fair. Great player, but what has he done/won?



true but same for Zach, Great player but what has he done/won?
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 02:04 PM

as I've written before, IMO without at least 1 playoff round win this year, I expect the #9 jersey to have a different name on the back come training camp in September
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 02:10 PM

true but same for Zach, Great player but what has he done/won?



Uh yeah, that's what I said.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 02:21 PM

No your right. I will say that he has hands down the hardest working player on the ice day in and day out. He back checks like a mother fvcker this season, battles, and most of the time wins it. Your right, I misread the part about being a selfish player. Thats not what I meant. Instead of taking a shot on goal he would much rather dish it out..insert Henriques points here... I just think that between Kovy being who he is as a person and a player plus the lack of wins in the last 2 seasons and other issues going on that we may or may not know about behind the locker room doors, he is going to say thank you shake hands and part his way. Plus think about it, if the team you were working for was having internal issues like being in debt and all this other crap going on, would you start to worry about whether or not you were receive the reputation and respect that you think you deserve?

On a different level, for the sake of argument, lets say that he does sign long term here....how do you all feel about him being the captain until retirement/transfer, because realistically speaking, he will remain the captain?


I agree that I wouldn't want to be on a team with serious financial issues.. Tough thing is that we don't know how JVB's situation will play out.. That said, the player/team/operations side of the organization gets their budgets considered first and things like marketing and fan outreach come second.. If the money situation means Zach won't have a good cast around him, that will be very bad for his chances of resigning

In terms of him being captain for the rest of his career if he signs long term, I think any player or coach in this organization will tell you that he is perfect example of a captain and leader.. He works harder than the other players, battles harder for a full 60 minutes, and is a positive guy.. I'm betting that Zach is the 2014 USA team captain in the Olympics.. He did score one of the biggest goals in Team USA history and it would have been even bigger had we won it in overtime (if he had scored the OT goal too, he'd be the American Crosby).. The Devils haven't had a better captain since Stevens (although I'm sure Elias and Nieds were amazing as well)
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 02:37 PM

ecklunds assertions are absolutely perposterous. kovy is the least "limelight grabbing" star in the league. he SHUNS IT! zach is the undisputed fan favorite. that relationship is the furthest thing in parises decision making process. and our cap situation is almost ideal in its timing.

Is the club financially healthy 3 - 8 years out?
are we ready to make a cup run in the next 2-5 years?
is Ms. Woods happy with the NNJ/NYC area?

Edited by EdgeControl, 10 January 2012 - 02:37 PM.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 03:06 PM

I think it must be interesting for Parise to see the love Elias has gotten both with his record breaking goal and his game played milestones...It is becominging unique in sports and it must be a really cool thing. If he leaves he will never have the experience of the love Elias gets for his loyalty and his year in year out dedication to the team. That being said if he goes to the Wild he would most likely get all the records and go down as the greatest player in their history...so I guess I don't really have a point. Dammit.

I hope he stays and I will enjoy his hustle and dedication for the rest of this year then we'll see.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 03:22 PM

does anyone know what team could give him a $8M /yr type of contract that is actually a cup contender? i was looking at capgeek and most teams wouldnt have the kind of money.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 03:34 PM

does anyone know what team could give him a $8M /yr type of contract that is actually a cup contender? i was looking at capgeek and most teams wouldnt have the kind of money.



The Rangers will, which scares the hell out of me.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 03:44 PM

does anyone know what team could give him a $8M /yr type of contract that is actually a cup contender? i was looking at capgeek and most teams wouldnt have the kind of money.



The Rangers will, which scares the hell out of me.


rangers with a little bit of maneuvering. chicago with very little at all. detroit with almost no problem.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 03:56 PM

There is absolutely no reason for him not to test the market. Even if he absolutely wanted to stay with the Devils, become a free agent will only increase his offer from NJ. (Certainly worked for Kovy)

That being said I highly doubt he is a Devils next year. He probably won't take the highest offer, but he will get a big contract from a true contender. I could definitely see him going to Detroit. Imagine him playing with Datsyuk.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:04 PM

I didn't see this posted, if it has please delete

http://www.nj.com/de...oney_matte.html

“For me that’s probably the biggest thing,” Parise said. “The money is definitely important. That’s real life, let’s face it. I’m not going to say it’s not. That’s realistic. But most important for me is being competitive and having a chance to win the Stanley Cup.”



Well. That's not EXACTLY what I wanted to hear. If that's the case we are probably in trouble.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:04 PM

The Rangers will, which scares the hell out of me.


No, they really won't. They would have to make some moves. Those moves would not be difficult, but they don't really have the room for it right now.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:08 PM

as I've written before, IMO without at least 1 playoff round win this year, I expect the #9 jersey to have a different name on the back come training camp in September

If we don't win at least one playoff round, chances are Parise will be partially to blame for it, just as he has been every other year we've underachieved in the playoffs. Zach hasn't exactly lit the world on fire in the postseasons he's been in, so maybe he should look in the fvcking mirror, eh?

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:08 PM

I could see this getting EXTREMELY ugly. Oh well. Whatever happens happens. #9 has all the control. After hearing this I think he's definitely going to leave now. I just hope he doesn't stay in the same division. If he goes to the Rangers I will absolutely fvcking despise him.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:10 PM

Well. That's not EXACTLY what I wanted to hear. If that's the case we are probably in trouble.


the thing is he never said that he want the cup next season... i think if he sees that we have a bright future (which i think we do) that he'd like to stick around and really participate to something...

to me to win a cup like elias and the other guys did... they sticked with the team and won it... you have to feel way more accomplished if you worked hard for a few years and win it than just to with the easy way just going for the cup like Hossa did... i can understand the selfishness of it but to me its dirty and its taking away the pride of it as a team... i dont know, i think Zach is loyal and that he'd really like to be a part of the history of the franchise by winning it rather than just leave
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:14 PM

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Єklund (2.3% accurate)/Parises-Time-Left-in-NJ-Looks-Short-Yotes-grab-Gilbert-Brule-off-waivers/1/41200

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This comes amidst plenty of talk that Parise isn't thrilled with the current situation in NJ and hasn't been for some time. "Zach wants more playing time and to be the go to guy," a source said, "That has't happened since Kovalchuk arrived."

And there it is. Did I not call it earlier in the thread?
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:15 PM

Well. That's not EXACTLY what I wanted to hear. If that's the case we are probably in trouble.

But has been the selling point of NJ for years... we're in it to win it, every year.

Take that away... to an outsider / non Devils fan, we're a team in the shadows of NYC with a small fanbase with questionable finances (not that it would effect his deal being paid out, but would defintely effect future signings or lackof)
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:16 PM

the thing is he never said that he want the cup next season... i think if he sees that we have a bright future (which i think we do) that he'd like to stick around and really participate to something...

to me to win a cup like elias and the other guys did... they sticked with the team and won it... you have to feel way more accomplished if you worked hard for a few years and win it than just to with the easy way just going for the cup like Hossa did... i can understand the selfishness of it but to me its dirty and its taking away the pride of it as a team... i dont know, i think Zach is loyal and that he'd really like to be a part of the history of the franchise by winning it rather than just leave



I'd like to think so too but that quote is just scary. Seriously if he keeps saying things like this I think the Devils should just trade him while his value is still up there.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:20 PM

And there it is. Did I not call it earlier in the thread?



It's almost pretty easy to tell that when Parise is on the bench next to Kovalchuck he's like "Aw man, this guy is a tool." I seriously feel like Kovalchuck wants to try to adapt to Parise's style of play, but he's just trying too hard. Things have been better the last 16 games or so but the big picture is Parise being unhappy with Kovalchuck overall IMO. Which sucks because he should just play the game and not worry about it. That's what leaders do they make it work no matter what the situation is.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:28 PM

It's almost pretty easy to tell that when Parise is on the bench next to Kovalchuck he's like "Aw man, this guy is a tool." I seriously feel like Kovalchuck wants to try to adapt to Parise's style of play, but he's just trying too hard. Things have been better the last 16 games or so but the big picture is Parise being unhappy with Kovalchuck overall IMO. Which sucks because he should just play the game and not worry about it. That's what leaders do they make it work no matter what the situation is.

I have no idea why you think that. They're doing just fine together right now, and I've never gotten the idea that there's any friction there. People see what they wanna see I guess.
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