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#61 vadvlfan

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 04:34 PM

politics is getting nasty in the US of A. all the "righties" will say, he's entitled to his opinion, "lefties" will say it's disrespectful. I still hate "W" but I'd gladly go if I won it.

TT used his position as a pro athlete to bullhorn his political views. I lost all respect for a guy I liked. No mas!

Also, because of this, after what Cam Neely said, his time in Bean town will be over soon. Where, somewhere he can think about it. Maybe, ....Columbus?

people say, "Glen Beck gets it" I don't get what people see in this guy?
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:09 PM

2) Why is it "unpatriotic"...........

Well, if you insist upon having someone answer you, here goes:

You DO recall how during the Bush administration, any hint of disagreement or criticism of the President was automatically jumped on by the right and decried as unpatriotic at best and treason at worst, do you not? BTW, if you say "no", you're either lying or you have a very selective memory.

(And this kind of crap is why I locked myself out of the Politics forum.)
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:23 PM

Well, if you insist upon having someone answer you, here goes:

You DO recall how during the Bush administration, any hint of disagreement or criticism of the President was automatically jumped on by the right and decried as unpatriotic at best and treason at worst, do you not? BTW, if you say "no", you're either lying or you have a very selective memory.

(And this kind of crap is why I locked myself out of the Politics forum.)


don't get worked up over this, some people are extremist's and won't budge on issues of reasoning or understanding views from "the other side"
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:26 PM

Well, if you insist upon having someone answer you, here goes:

You DO recall how during the Bush administration, any hint of disagreement or criticism of the President was automatically jumped on by the right and decried as unpatriotic at best and treason at worst, do you not? BTW, if you say "no", you're either lying or you have a very selective memory.

(And this kind of crap is why I locked myself out of the Politics forum.)

Well, I didn't bring up the fact that one poster alleged it was "unpatriotic" for Thomas to not go.

And yes, you are just another gullible liar who believes what you want. I want you to show me ONE example of someone being called unpatriotic for disagreeing with Bush.........it can't be done because it was a myth.

This is going way off course. All I wanted was an answer to why Thomas is a "bigot" as another alleged.

don't get worked up over this, some people are extremist's and won't budge on issues of reasoning or understanding views from "the other side"

Like Rowdy and Manta, etc
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:27 PM

It should be an apolitical event, so it's a little childish in Thomas's part. Otherwise it's not something I think about all that much or that I'm losing any sleep over one way orthe other.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:36 PM

Well, I didn't bring up the fact that one poster alleged it was "unpatriotic" for Thomas to not go.

And yes, you are just another gullible liar who believes what you want. I want you to show me ONE example of someone being called unpatriotic for disagreeing with Bush.........it can't be done because it was a myth.

This is going way off course. All I wanted was an answer to why Thomas is a "bigot" as another alleged.


Like Rowdy and Manta, etc


You know Thomas has 3 children and all of their names start with K
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:41 PM

You know Thomas has 3 children and all of their names start with K


Tim Thomas is a Kardashian? Has the brains of one, but still.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 05:43 PM

You know Thomas has 3 children and all of their names start with K

Ha, I saw that. Hiiiighly doubtful that has any meaning. That dumbass from TSN shouldn't have tweeted that... one thing if a comedian said it as a joke, but some news dude from TSN?

It's not like TT made some huge statement by not going, the only effect his not being there had was making himself look bad and putting his team mates in a sh!tty spot/overshadowing their day.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:00 PM

Damn you libs are a meth hit away from being full blown psychotic. Of course Thomas is a selfish racist bigot for not going to the white house. What other motivation could he possibly have? I guess this is the reason why I don't enter the political forums :ECW:
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:17 PM

don't get worked up over this, some people are extremist's and won't budge on issues of reasoning or understanding views from "the other side"

It's all good, I'm not getting worked up. Leeds wanted his answer, he got it.

And yes, you are just another gullible liar who believes what you want. I want you to show me ONE example of someone being called unpatriotic for disagreeing with Bush.........it can't be done because it was a myth.

You're joking, right?

This is going way off course. All I wanted was an answer to why Thomas is a "bigot" as another alleged.

You already know the answer, you're just hoping someone will come out and say it. Well, here you go: "bigot" is often the first shot taken by those who wish to defend Obama from criticism. Sometimes it's accurate, sometimes it's not, but it's an easy opener which buys time for the formation of better arguments.

Like Rowdy and Manta, etc

Can't resist the personal attacks, can you?

It should be an apolitical event, so it's a little childish in Thomas's part. Otherwise it's not something I think about all that much or that I'm losing any sleep over one way orthe other.

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Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:25 PM

This thread should be moved.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:33 PM

This thread should be moved.


its winding down.....it was heated this morning
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:35 PM

It amazes me how people can take something so simple and blow it out of proportion. :rolleyes:
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:40 PM

It amazes me how people can take something so simple and blow it out of proportion. :rolleyes:


politics and patriotism really strikes a nerve in people
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:57 PM

Good for Thomas.

If I were given the chance to visit the white house, I think I would. I don't much care for Obama, but I'd still make the trip and meet the guy. I'd use the opportunity to ask a few questions of my own, off the record. Plus it's tradition.

But like many have said, he has every right to decline the invitation. I don't see it as disrespectful, or "not supporting the troops."(How exactly are you supporting the troops by going to the white house and giving one of the guys who sends our troops overseas a jersey ?) Is it a political statement? I think not. But regardless people will see it as one.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 06:59 PM

Good for Thomas.

If I were given the chance to visit the white house, I think I would. I don't much care for Obama, but I'd still make the trip and meet the guy. I'd use the opportunity to ask a few questions of my own, off the record. Plus it's tradition.

But like many have said, he has every right to decline the invitation. I don't see it as disrespectful, or "not supporting the troops."(How exactly are you supporting the troops by going to the white house and giving one of the guys who sends our troops overseas a jersey ?) Is it a political statement? I think not. But regardless people will see it as one.


I am not a fan of Obama here as well and totally agree with this opinion
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:00 PM

Good for Thomas.

If I were given the chance to visit the white house, I think I would. I don't much care for Obama, but I'd still make the trip and meet the guy. I'd use the opportunity to ask a few questions of my own, off the record. Plus it's tradition.

But like many have said, he has every right to decline the invitation. I don't see it as disrespectful, or "not supporting the troops."(How exactly are you supporting the troops by going to the white house and giving one of the guys who sends our troops overseas a jersey ?) Is it a political statement? I think not. But regardless people will see it as one.


I agree 100% with this post.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 07:42 PM

You're joking, right?

Like I figured......... all talking points, no facts.

You already know the answer, you're just hoping someone will come out and say it. Well, here you go: "bigot" is often the first shot taken by those who wish to defend Obama from criticism. Sometimes it's accurate, sometimes it's not, but it's an easy opener which buys time for the formation of better arguments.

We agree..........well I'll be.......

Can't resist the personal attacks, can you?

Hmmmmm......you didn't call out the personal attack on me, I'm shocked.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 08:11 PM

But like many have said, he has every right to decline the invitation. I don't see it as disrespectful, or "not supporting the troops."(How exactly are you supporting the troops by going to the white house and giving one of the guys who sends our troops overseas a jersey ?) Is it a political statement? I think not. But regardless people will see it as one.

If he simply didn't accompany the team to the White House and left it at that, I don't think it would be such a big deal. The part of it that has everyone's hackles up is that he got on his soapbox and made a political statement about it.
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 08:21 PM

If he simply didn't accompany the team to the White House and left it at that, I don't think it would be such a big deal. The part of it that has everyone's hackles up is that he got on his soapbox and made a political statement about it.

Was he asked, or did he call a press conference.

Probably didn't read his remarks off a teleprompter either.
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