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Posted 29 August 2012 - 07:44 PM

Harvey was a bit infuriating today. walking the opposing pitcher twice?

And Juan Pierre continues to kill us.
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:34 PM

Besides those walks, he looked pretty good. Definitely didn't have his best breaking stuff but he compensated with that fantastic fastball that he can run up to 97-99 mph when he needs to.

Edited by nmigliore, 29 August 2012 - 08:35 PM.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:39 PM

Also, the Mets really need to calm down with Edgin's use. He's pitched 8 times in the last 11 days. Everybody is different, but we've seen what can happen with over-using lefties (Byrdak, Feliciano).
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 08:47 PM

Yea Harvey didn't have his best control tonight, but the fastball was poppin and Duda made a nice play in left to bail him out of an inning.

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Posted 29 August 2012 - 09:05 PM

Wright had a pretty miserable day at the plate, but good to see Duda finally hit a home run, just a line drive rocket down the RF line. And he even made a nice catch!

Other than that...not much to talk about. Carson has looked decent of late

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 06:11 AM

Wright had a pretty miserable day at the plate, but good to see Duda finally hit a home run, just a line drive rocket down the RF line. And he even made a nice catch!

Other than that...not much to talk about. Carson has looked decent of late


Wright might not even finish with a .300 average for the season at the rate he's going in the second half, which is kind of hard to fathom. He's 25-for-98 for July (.255) and 25-for-95 for August (.263), and has walked 26 times and struck out 49 times in the two months combined. He's also slugging .347 for the month of August, and his OB%+SLG% has dropped each month (most dramatically from June to July and from July to August). A lot of this is disconcerting, because the numbers these last two months are similar numbers to last season, and I don't care about what the sabes say or what other third basemen did last season, the Mets cannot spend top dollar for the David Wright of last season and the David Wright of July and August of this season...that version of David Wright is nowhere near a cornerstone type of building block. If the Mets decide not to ante up the big cash for him, I can definitely understand, and don't think they should blasted for it.

Yeah, clearly not Harvey's best game, but he minimized the damage from those mistakes...great to see him not only get his feet wet up here, but pitch pretty damned well doing it.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 01:38 PM

Niese stunk today. Bigtime. And he let the crap of the Phillies lineup get to him
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 01:48 PM

Niese stunk today. Bigtime. And he let the crap of the Phillies lineup get to him


C'mon, he gave up 3 runs in 6 innings. Not a great outing, but hardly a big-time stinker.

It would also help if the Mets hit a little more. They're not exactly lighting up Kendrick today.

Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 30 August 2012 - 02:05 PM.

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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 02:15 PM

At least they won 2 out of 3.

Edited by nmigliore, 30 August 2012 - 02:21 PM.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 02:41 PM

Josh Thole's season slash line is now down to .238/.298/.292. This is becoming really awful.
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Posted 30 August 2012 - 03:11 PM

Josh Thole's season slash line is now down to .238/.298/.292. This is becoming really awful.


Wow, a .590 OB%+SLG%...that is abysmal. As bad as Ike has been from a BA and OB% standpoint, he at least has a .736 OB%+SLG%. Basically Thole's not good for much more than a couple of singles and a walk per 10 plate appearances...that's about as close as one can get to invisible without being Jason Bay.

Get the feeling Stoppach's going to get a lot of playing time...he strikes out a ton, but at least he can hit with some juice and get on base some (this season, anyway). Might as well roll with him...Thole's pretty much writing himself out of the Mets' plans anyway.

Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 30 August 2012 - 03:16 PM.

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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 01:48 PM

I'm sure most of you guys are familiar with the name Wilmer Flores since he signed with the Mets in 2007 and had a dazzling rookie ball debut in 2008. He just topped Baseball America's final weekly Hot Sheet of the season, I'd recommend giving it a read (it's only two paragraphs): http://www.baseballa...12/2613987.html

It's kind of all covered there, but the Mets finally moved him off of SS this year and he's mostly played 3B and 2B, the former being his likely future position. If you think Wright won't be in the team's future plans, keep an eye on Flores. As a 20 year old this year, he hit .289/.336/.463 in high-A, and upon being promoted to AA, he's mashed to a .323/.374/.506 slash line. He's always displayed excellent contact skills but this year he's finally showing some good power, totaling a career-high 17 homers.

I'd rank him as the 3rd best prospect in the system, behind Wheeler and Nimmo. He's definitely the closest-to-the-Majors legit bat the Mets have in their system. At this rate, he should start next season in AAA, where he'll likely be in a hitter friendly environment (the Pacific Coast League) since the Mets' PDC contract with Buffalo is up and Las Vegas has been the most rumored landing spot.

Edited by nmigliore, 31 August 2012 - 01:50 PM.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 01:58 PM

I'm sure most of you guys are familiar with the name Wilmer Flores since he signed with the Mets in 2007 and had a dazzling rookie ball debut in 2008. He just topped Baseball America's final weekly Hot Sheet of the season, I'd recommend giving it a read (it's only two paragraphs): http://www.baseballa...12/2613987.html

It's kind of all covered there, but the Mets finally moved him off of SS this year and he's mostly played 3B and 2B, the former being his likely future position. If you think Wright won't be in the team's future plans, keep an eye on Flores. As a 20 year old this year, he hit .289/.336/.463 in high-A, and upon being promoted to AA, he's mashed to a .323/.374/.506 slash line. He's always displayed excellent contact skills but this year he's finally showing some good power, totaling a career-high 17 homers.

I'd rank him as the 3rd best prospect in the system, behind Wheeler and Nimmo. He's definitely the closest-to-the-Majors legit bat the Mets have in their system. At this rate, he should start next season in AAA, where he'll likely be in a hitter friendly environment (the Pacific Coast League) since the Mets' PDC contract with Buffalo is up and Las Vegas has been the most rumored landing spot.


Good to know there's someone within who might be able to take Wright's spot. I don't kid myself...Wright has his warts, especially in recent years, but he will still be a tough act to follow.

Yeah, PCL stats almost have to be taken with a grain of salt...easy to get excited about them if you don't know much about the league. There's teams who hit .300 AS A TEAM out there. God, the Mets' AAA team possibly out in Vegas...weird.
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:08 PM

Yeah I can't stand the PCL. It's a nightmare on pitchers and it's difficult to measure hitter performance. Buffalo is really a perfect spot for the Mets' AAA affiliate due to being in the more-balanced International League and it's location, but that relationship looks finished. Toronto, who ironically has Las Vegas in the PCL right now, will probably jump on Buffalo and the Mets will end up with Las Vegas or one of the other expiring PDC's. It's kind of like a game of musical chairs; no International League PDC expires besides Mets/Buffalo, thus making a PCL team all but certain for the Mets. For instance, there are 8 expiring PDC's in the PCL after this year, 3 or 4 of which may look for a new partner. Las Vegas is the most likely to make a switch though, making them a natural fit for the Mets. That would be pretty terrible.

Edited by nmigliore, 31 August 2012 - 02:22 PM.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:23 PM

Yeah I can't stand the PCL. It's a nightmare on pitchers and it's difficult to measure hitter performance. Buffalo is really a perfect spot for the Mets' AAA affiliate due to being in the more-balanced International League and it's location, but that relationship looks finished. Toronto, who ironically has Las Vegas in the PCL right now, will probably jump on Buffalo and the Mets will end up with Las Vegas or one of the other expiring PDC's. It's kind of like a game of musical chairs; no International League PDC expires besides Mets/Buffalo, thus making a PCL team all but certain for the Mets. For instance, there are 8 expiring PDC's in the PCL after this year, 3 or 4 of which may look for a new partner. Las Vegas is the most likely to make a switch though, making them a natural fit for the Mets. That would be really terrible.


Yeah, that is going to be a major downer of an announcement if it comes down. Not good for the Mets at all...just the idea of Wheeler having to pitch a season out there...bleech!
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 07:35 PM

Mammoth shot by Ike! 2nd deck in RF!
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Posted 31 August 2012 - 08:21 PM

Complete game shutout for Dickey! I love this man.
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 08:04 AM

Complete game shutout for Dickey! I love this man.


How could we not? The guy has really picked it up again too...in his last 7 starts, he's given up 2 ER once, 1 ER three times, and 0 ER twice. His ERA has dropped from 2.97 to 2.63 in that time. He's giving up more fly balls than he was earlier, but that clearly isn't hurting him lately.

What's sad is, the writers' misinterpretation of what the Cy Young Award is supposed to be will probably cost Dickey the award. The Cy Young is supposed to be awarded to the best pitcher in his respective league, period. But some writers have turned it into an MVP award, and when it comes to Dickey's competition, writers will factor in that Cueto and Gonzalez had to pitch in higher-pressure situations down the stretch as their teams are in contention. It's not Dickey's fault that his team stopped hitting after the All-Star Break, and that the Mets fell apart. The Mets are 19-9 in his starts...which makes them 18 games under .500 when anyone else starts.

In Cueto's defense, he's managed to post a 2.26 ERA in Great American Bandbox (he's at 2.48 overall), which is pretty impressive, but the Reds' team ERAs aren't that wildly different on the road and at home (3.61 home, 3.30 away), so I'm not sure how much voters should factor in the pitchers' home parks when making their decision.
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 08:18 AM

Mammoth shot by Ike! 2nd deck in RF!


Scary that Ike is now only four RBI behind Wright for the team lead. It's not like Ike has been unconscious either...he's been solid the last two months from an RBI standpoint, but it's not like he's gone on a Manny Ramirez-in-his-prime kind of tear (Ike had 29 RBI for July and August combined). Really shows how much Wright has disappeared (7 RBI for all of August).
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Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 08:28 AM

The MVP should be the best player in each league too, but it's often misconstrued as the "most valuable to a contender", for whatever reason.

The Cy Young race is really tight. I couldn't tell you who I'd vote for right now if the season ended. Probably Cueto if I had to pick, but it's not clear cut. Cueto, Dickey, Gonzalez, and Kershaw are all right up there.

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