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#161 nmigliore

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 03:16 PM

Miguel Batista is going to be the 5th starter now. This is ridiculous.

I rarely get on Sandy for anything and in reality this move won't mean anything once the team is out of the playoff race, but it's still disappointing. You don't just punt a spot like that. It's pretty obvious to anyone, whether you look at traditional stats or sabermetric stats (or no stats at all), that Miguel Batista is bad. He really shouldn't be on the 25-man roster as the team's long reliever, let alone starting games every fifth day.

It's true that the other options (Schwinden and Hefner) might not be incrementally better, but that goes back to Sandy not adding any starting depth in the offseason; plenty of okay pitchers signed minor league deals like Jeff Francis, Zach Duke, and Joel Pineiro. And yes, these pitchers are sure as heck better than Batista. But instead of adding a body, the Mets sat on their hands and entered the year with the unproven Chris Schwinden as their best option if someone got hurt. That's just not good roster management. Hopefully Sandy has something up his sleeve and he can bring in someone capable of not being an embarrassment every fifth day, but for now we'll just have to deal with Batista.

I guess the only positive to come of this is that Sandy has been clear about Matt Harvey and Jeurys Familia not being options. And he's right, neither pitcher is ready for the Majors.

Edited by nmigliore, 04 May 2012 - 04:03 PM.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:07 PM

It ain't about this year nmig. Sucks, but we all know it. Maybe next year, if Wheeler and Harvey and Familia make insane progress, they start thinking about becoming relevant again, but relevance is probably coming in 2014 at the earliest. But I know what you mean...you'd like management to be a little less obvious about the fact that they're punting this year away.
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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:51 PM

Sandy's waiting on Chris Young (supposed to be back by the end of May I guess), which is itself a faulty plan since the guy's made of glass. He is better than Pelfrey or the dreck they're throwing out there now, but that's only gonna last a month till he goes back on the DL.
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Posted 04 May 2012 - 05:14 PM

Young is better than nothing, but counting on him is foolish. It'll be a miracle if he lasts more than a handful of starts; he's bound to get hurt or just get destroyed with the slop he throws up there.

Edited by nmigliore, 04 May 2012 - 05:14 PM.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:02 AM

Rough one last night. 13-13 and outscored by 31 runs, and only a game out of last. 4-0 seems like a long time ago...
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[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 11:10 AM

It's sad how much faith Collins has in Rauch; despite some early season luck, he's really not any good (horrid numbers last season, swinging strike rate alarmingly bad this season). Bobby Parnell, on the other hand, has an average leverage index only higher than Miguel Batista. Parnell is arguably the team's best reliever. Collins needs to get Parnell in more high leverage spots and get Rauch way down the pecking order.

Edited by nmigliore, 05 May 2012 - 11:16 AM.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 11:19 AM

Rough one last night. 13-13 and outscored by 31 runs, and only a game out of last. 4-0 seems like a long time ago...

Believe it or not, the Mets are 6th in the NL in OPS, which his better than their runs scored total would have you to believe, and the starting staff xFIP is 4th in the league. That's a lot better than I figured them to be. No, the ERA isn't pretty but that's mostly due to the unluckiest HR/FB rate in the league. In other words, they are due for a lot of positive regression. The starter's ERA is is roughly a full run higher than what it probably should be.

Edited by nmigliore, 05 May 2012 - 11:28 AM.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:29 PM

TC took my advice and used Parnell in the 8th today. He even showed enough faith to leave him in with Montero at the plate and the tying run in scoring position.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 02:31 PM

Francisco nails down an absolute gem by Dickey! Nice bounceback series! Gotta enjoy this one while it lasts because this trip to Philly might be hell; Halladay on Monday, Batista on the mound for us Tuesday (ugh), and then Lee on Wednesday.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 07:31 PM

Francisco nails down an absolute gem by Dickey! Nice bounceback series! Gotta enjoy this one while it lasts because this trip to Philly might be hell; Halladay on Monday, Batista on the mound for us Tuesday (ugh), and then Lee on Wednesday.


Amazing, they keep finding a way to stay above .500 just a little bit longer. They may not be terribly good, but they do give their all.
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[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:11 PM

WOW! Jordany Valdespin with a HUGE pinch-hit 3-run bomb and it was his first Major League hit!! What a win!!!

Also, major credit to Mike Nickeas. He came in after Thole had to leave and was against the ropes versus Papelbon only to rope a 2-strike, 2-out double to keep the inning alive. Shades of Omir Santos!

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:27 PM

What exactly happened to Thole? Was it a dirty slide by Wiggington? (not like those things can go punished anyway...)

unexpected win, takes the edge off of that other unexpected win tonight :puke:
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:10 PM

It wasn't dirty, he just caught him with the shoulder in the face on the slide.

It seems like it's a concussion for Thole. Hopefully this doesn't turn into another Church fiasco, which basically ruined his career. The Mets need to be very cautious.

Unfortunately the catching situation in the meantime is going to be pretty terrible; Rob Johnson seems like the most logical call-up but he can't hit or catch very well.

Edited by nmigliore, 07 May 2012 - 10:10 PM.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 06:26 AM

I guess now for every win, the Mets have to lose a player to injury.
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[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 06:34 PM

Batista already has given up 2 runs. So terrible.

Thankfully there is a Devil game tonight.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:37 PM

They somehow pulled this one out, down 4-0. Great job by the bullpen.

That's 2 unexpected wins in a series I might've bet on them getting swept in (or at the very least losing 2 out of 3). Awesome. I'd love the sweep tomorrow but either way, I'm just so happy they won another series in Philly, especially one that looked incredibly bleak coming into it.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:42 PM

Great clutch hits by Duda late in the game...still need to get Davis rolling
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 06:41 AM

They somehow pulled this one out, down 4-0. Great job by the bullpen.

That's 2 unexpected wins in a series I might've bet on them getting swept in (or at the very least losing 2 out of 3). Awesome. I'd love the sweep tomorrow but either way, I'm just so happy they won another series in Philly, especially one that looked incredibly bleak coming into it.


Yeah, they have a way of surprising so far in this young season. I would've signed up for 17-13 through 30 GP in a heartbeat. That's a 92-win pace.

And how about their records against their division rivals?

4-1 against Philthy
4-2 against Atlanta
3-0 against Florida
1-2 against Washington

12-5 against the East so far.

May 24 is the start of a nice 11-game homestand...it'd be great if the Mets could hover around 3-4 over .500 until then.
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[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:27 AM

Gotta love doubling your victory pleasure in Philly!
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:06 PM

SWEEP!
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