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#161 CarpathianForest

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:09 PM

Eh, they're still safe by a mile. Even if you go by the premise that Philly, Pittsburgh and Ottawa can pass the Devils easily and bump us to seventh, they'd still need 'three' Southeast teams to pass them to miss the playoffs, since one has to win the division. Or two Southeast teams and Toronto, which is just as farfetched. Especially since all those teams have extra game(s) played.


Pitt and Philly are ahead of us and we're tied with Ottawa. We'll be in 7th by middle of the week.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:28 PM

Carp.... You do realize that we have 3 games in hand on Ottawa and 4 on the thrashers
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:30 PM

Carp.... You do realize that we have 3 games in hand on Ottawa and 4 on the thrashers


Have you seen the Sens and Jets lately? They're playing a heckuva lot better than we are.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:34 PM

Have you seen the Sens and Jets lately? They're playing a heckuva lot better than we are.



They are both at or better than 9-3-1 since the all star game?
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:34 PM

Have you seen the Sens and Jets lately? They're playing a heckuva lot better than we are.


You need to lighten up a bit. The sky isn't falling just yet.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:39 PM

Have you seen the Sens and Jets lately? They're playing a heckuva lot better than we are.


Again, the Devils need 'three' other teams to pass them besides Ottawa to miss the playoffs.

Devils 21 games left, 74 points
Florida 21 games left, 70 points
Winnipeg 18 games left, 68 points
Washington 20 games left, 67 points
Toronto 20 games left, 65 points

What three teams among that group are realistically passing the Devils? And if only one SE team passes the Devils it doesn't matter since they'd have to win their division anyway.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 26 February 2012 - 10:40 PM.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:40 PM

You need to lighten up a bit. The sky isn't falling just yet.


I tried to by recalling that even the Wings lost to the Avalanche last night at home, but then I forgot that we're not the Wings. Our 9-3-1 record looks good until you realize that over the past four games we've gone 1-2-1 and that win was in OT. We've got the Rangers tomorrow and Marty will probably stars, that bodes no good.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:42 PM

Again, the Devils need 'three' other teams to pass them besides Ottawa to miss the playoffs.

Devils 21 games left, 74 points
Florida 21 games left, 70 points
Winnipeg 18 games left, 68 points
Washington 20 games left, 67 points
Toronto 20 games left, 65 points

What three teams among that group are realistically passing the Devils? And if only one SE team passes the Devils it doesn't matter since they'd have to win their division anyway.


How dare you make sense and back it up with facts! Stop it!
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:43 PM

Again, the Devils need 'three' other teams to pass them besides Ottawa to miss the playoffs.

Devils 21 games left, 74 points
Florida 21 games left, 70 points
Winnipeg 18 games left, 68 points
Washington 20 games left, 67 points
Toronto 20 games left, 65 points

What three teams among that group are realistically passing the Devils? And if only one SE team passes the Devils it doesn't matter since they'd have to win their division anyway.


Florida 21 games left, 70 points
Winnipeg 18 games left, 68 points
Washington 20 games left, 67 points
Toronto 20 games left, 65 points

Any of these guys can pass us if our recent history of slumping into the postseason holds true and it looks to be heading that way especially since we've got like the second toughest schedule of any team remaining.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:43 PM

Well at least the we're gonna pass the Rangers thread hasn't been bumped since this weekend started :lol: With the way this team's played at home, who wants home-ice anyway? I'd pass myself :P
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:45 PM

Seriously, Avery? I like you man, but you need to chill. We definitely deserved better against the Canucks and probably should have won this one too. Bad bounces and a few boneheaded plays costed us


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Yea. Well. Had to work Larrson back in some how. Not that the entire game was his fault but he just played soft. Just wish Hedberg started today/tomorrow. Don't agree with Marty starting back to back.
Just sucks Garon ended up having a solid game like that.

...really? Really?



They just can't lose to team like Tampa right now when their next two games are vs NY/BOS
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:45 PM

Florida 21 games left, 70 points
Winnipeg 18 games left, 68 points
Washington 20 games left, 67 points
Toronto 20 games left, 65 points

Any of these guys can pass us if our recent history of slumping into the postseason holds true and it looks to be heading that way especially since we've got like the second toughest schedule of any team remaining.


Any 'one' team yes. Any three teams from that group of mediocrity, highly unlikely. You need two SE teams to pass the Devils to have one pass us. And that's assuming Ottawa also gets and stays ahead without Craig Anderson for the last month.

If the Devils lose all three this week in regulation (unlikely but possible) then you can come back with the 'sky is falling' posts.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 26 February 2012 - 10:49 PM.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:48 PM

Any 'one' team yes. Any three teams from that group of mediocrity, highly unlikely. You need two SE teams to pass the Devils to have one pass us. If the Devils lose all three this week in regulation (unlikely but possible) then you can come back with the 'sky is falling' posts.


Washington, Florida and Winnipeg could all pass us.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:49 PM

Have you seen the Sens and Jets lately? They're playing a heckuva lot better than we are.



Their schedule definitely hasn't been as hard as ours. The easiest teams we've had so far are the Habs and Lightning.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:52 PM

Any 'one' team yes. Any three teams from that group of mediocrity, highly unlikely. You need two SE teams to pass the Devils to have one pass us. And that's assuming Ottawa also gets and stays ahead without Craig Anderson for the last month.

If the Devils lose all three this week in regulation (unlikely but possible) then you can come back with the 'sky is falling' posts.


Michalek, Karlsson and Spezza have all been consistently good this season which is more than I can say for any one player on our roster. Our top line vanishes in stretches, Elias has gone awol for a bit. The only line tat gets it done is the third.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:53 PM

Washington, Florida and Winnipeg could all pass us.



If that happens then we deserve to lose because the Devils are a better team all around than any of those teams.
The Devils lost to the Canucks (the best team in the league IMO) because Schneider stole the game, just like Garon did today. Although the Devils had more quality chances in this game I believe.
Also, Larson was SUPER fvcking rusty. They'll get back on track tomorrow, they don't have a choice. It will be sweet to beat the Rags again.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 10:55 PM

Washington, Florida and Winnipeg could all pass us.


So all the SE teams are going to play at a 20+ point clip in the final month when they're all playing each other? There better be a lot of three-point games then :lol:
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:25 PM

So all the SE teams are going to play at a 20+ point clip in the final month when they're all playing each other? There better be a lot of three-point games then :lol:


I'm saying that 2 of them could pass us.

But answer me this, does anything prove to you that this season is any different from that past several seasons?
The last time we didn't hit the skids late in the season was 05-06, even last year when we were trying to get into a spot we hit the skids late in the season. The only difference between this season and 06-07 to 09-10 is that during those seasons we were sitting pretty and could afford to slump.
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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:31 PM

I'm saying that 2 of them could pass us.

But answer me this, does anything prove to you that this season is any different from that past several seasons?
The last time we didn't hit the skids late in the season was 05-06, even last year when we were trying to get into a spot we hit the skids late in the season. The only difference between this season and 06-07 to 09-10 is that during those seasons we were sitting pretty and could afford to slump.


Two doesn't put us in danger of missing the playoffs. You'd still need Ottawa without their starting goalie and Toronto without any goalie to pass us as well.

I don't disagree that the Devils 'need' to not be on a skid going into the playoffs but two straight losses after a 9-1-1 stretch don't exactly show the sky's falling yet. Like I said get back to me at the end of this week...five in a row, then you have a genuine beef. Four out of five losses wouldn't be great but probably expected at this point with what's ahead. If you're going to give the Devils bad marks for the Toronto game which they won, then you have to give them plus marks for the Vancouver game which they lost.
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-NHL record for most home wins in the playoffs - 12-1 in '03

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:34 PM

Two doesn't put us in danger of missing the playoffs. You'd still need Ottawa without their starting goalie and Toronto without any goalie to pass us as well.

I don't disagree that the Devils 'need' to not be on a skid going into the playoffs but two straight losses after a 9-1-1 stretch don't exactly show the sky's falling yet. Like I said get back to me at the end of this week...five in a row, then you have a genuine beef. Four out of five losses wouldn't be great but probably expected at this point with what's ahead. If you're going to give the Devils bad marks for the Toronto game which they won, then you have to give them plus marks for the Vancouver game which they lost.


In your opinion: During the stretch after the ASG, are there any games reflected on the scoreboard and in the game that shows we really dominated?
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