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#161 Onddeck

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:30 AM

yea, regardless of whether you aren't liking how Marty is playing recently (although he did only give up 1 goal last night), it is interesting why he's getting played so much. back to backs too?
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:34 AM

Admittedly, this is the one thing I wish would stop. Marty hasn't played so well that he should be starting both ends of back-to-backs, and Hedberg deserves to get more starts than he does. Marty's played well enough that I don't mind him starting 65%-75% of the time, but sometimes I wonder what Hedberg has to do to get in there just a little more often. Four starts since 1/11 seems a little unfair to both goalies.



I wish it would stop too. Marty is not as young as he used to be and if he is going to be our playoff goalie then he should get some rest in down the stretch.

Marty has played pretty damn well I think in the past 2 months and this isn't a knock on him. I just wish Moose can get in there and get rewarded for his efforts with more playing time since he is def capable.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:42 AM

Marty has only played 'one' back to back all season and no travel was involved in that one.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:47 AM

Marty has always played his best when he plays a lot. This season has been further evidence of it. Giving Moose more starts might bust up Marty's mojo.

If it's a choice between being fair and giving Moose more starts, or having your starter playing at his best heading into the playoffs, I'll take the latter. Goalie platoons are nice in the regular season, but come playoff time it's preferable to have one go-to guy playing at his peak.

And if there is truth to the team playing better in front of Moose, the last thing a coach should do is cave in to that. That'd be on the players. They'd need to get their heads out of their collective asses and play at 100% no matter who's in net. That is, if it's true.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:50 AM

Marty has always played his best when he plays a lot. This season has been further evidence of it. Giving Moose more starts might bust up Marty's mojo.

If it's a choice between being fair and giving Moose more starts, or having your starter playing at his best heading into the playoffs, I'll take the latter. Goalie platoons are nice in the regular season, but come playoff time it's preferable to have one go-to guy playing at his peak.

And if there is truth to the team playing better in front of Moose, the last thing a coach should do is cave in to that. That'd be on the players. They'd need to get their heads out of their collective asses and play at 100% no matter who's in net. That is, if it's true.


Exactly. Well put
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:51 AM

Marty has always played his best when he plays a lot. This season has been further evidence of it. Giving Moose more starts might bust up Marty's mojo.

If it's a choice between being fair and giving Moose more starts, or having your starter playing at his best heading into the playoffs, I'll take the latter. Goalie platoons are nice in the regular season, but come playoff time it's preferable to have one go-to guy playing at his peak.

And if there is truth to the team playing better in front of Moose, the last thing a coach should do is cave in to that. That'd be on the players. They'd need to get their heads out of their collective asses and play at 100% no matter who's in net. That is, if it's true.



I never believed that line and honestly I think that is crap.

He might have gotten away with that ten years ago, but he hasn't since the lockout. He needs to play less and be more fresh for the playoffs.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:56 AM

Marty has only played 'one' back to back all season and no travel was involved in that one.


100% accurate on both counts...
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:59 AM

Marty has only played 'one' back to back all season and no travel was involved in that one.



I do not care if it was only a few miles of "travel" or from the West Coast. He shouldn't play back to backs regardless.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:04 AM

I'm a late comer. Is Marty being blamed for letting in the goal that Larssen screened him on?? He would've caught that in his teeth if the kid didn't decide to go for a stroll in front of the net.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:08 AM

Honestly I was surprised Marty got the start yesterday after Moose got the shutout on Friday. Usually Moose would get it again after that.

I noticed Marty has been playing a lot more after DeBoer yanked him in Calgary. He is even using him in both games for back to backs. It makes me wonder if this is Lou's call again or if Marty said something.


The rules haven't changed. The only reason Moose played more early was Marty got hurt for a couple weeks, plus there were a lot more back to backs in the first half.

I honestly think DeBoer played Marty in the back to back last week to get him stretched out for the playoffs, in case of a back to back there or a long OT game. But I'd be surprised if Moose didn't play in the others, especially with the totality of this month's schedule.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:11 AM

The rules haven't changed. The only reason Moose played more early was Marty got hurt for a couple weeks, plus there were a lot more back to backs in the first half.

I honestly think DeBoer played Marty in the back to back last week to get him stretched out for the playoffs, in case of a back to back there or a long OT game. But I'd be surprised if Moose didn't play in the others, especially with the totality of this month's schedule.



I honestly can only remember maybe once a back to back in the playoffs that the Devils have played in the last 10 years or so. I might be wrong on this but back to backs in the playoffs are pretty rare.

We have 17 games this crazy month. Plenty of games for Marty to stretch as well as Moose to get a few games in.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:24 AM

Marty has always played his best when he plays a lot. This season has been further evidence of it. Giving Moose more starts might bust up Marty's mojo.

If it's a choice between being fair and giving Moose more starts, or having your starter playing at his best heading into the playoffs, I'll take the latter. Goalie platoons are nice in the regular season, but come playoff time it's preferable to have one go-to guy playing at his peak.

And if there is truth to the team playing better in front of Moose, the last thing a coach should do is cave in to that. That'd be on the players. They'd need to get their heads out of their collective asses and play at 100% no matter who's in net. That is, if it's true.


Like I said, I don't have a problem with Marty getting the majority of the starts...I'm not talking 50-50 platoon. And Marty's save% over his last 5 is .875. Not saying he's solely responsible for that...just saying I don't see the harm in Hedberg getting 4-5 starts down the stretch...especially with the schedule being so compressed. I don't think that would hurt Marty's game.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 12:03 PM

I never believed that line and honestly I think that is crap.

He might have gotten away with that ten years ago, but he hasn't since the lockout. He needs to play less and be more fresh for the playoffs.


I agree he needs to play less games to be fresher for the playoffs, but you can't deny that he was pretty good in the only back end of a back-to-back that he played in so far this year. He certainly wasn't the reason we lost to the Rangers, or yesterday to the Isles.

I think DeBoer gave Marty a lot of rest to start the season, and is now trying to get him primed for the playoffs by giving him a larger workload. Moose will play down the stretch, but it will likely be, at most, 4 or 5 games.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 12:15 PM

I agree he needs to play less games to be fresher for the playoffs, but you can't deny that he was pretty good in the only back end of a back-to-back that he played in so far this year. He certainly wasn't the reason we lost to the Rangers, or yesterday to the Isles.

I think DeBoer gave Marty a lot of rest to start the season, and is now trying to get him primed for the playoffs by giving him a larger workload. Moose will play down the stretch, but it will likely be, at most, 4 or 5 games.



I agree Marty has been playing very well in the last couple of months and his play is not the reason why I would like for him to sit more games down the stretch. I just rather him be fresher.

Honestly, I will be shocked if Moose gets 4 or 5 games for the rest of the season. I think it will more likely be 1-3 which is too little.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 12:25 PM

Two back to backs plus one miscellaneous start in the final week is about what I'm thinking too. So I'd say three more Moose sightings.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 01:19 PM

Two back to backs plus one miscellaneous start in the final week is about what I'm thinking too. So I'd say three more Moose sightings.


That's what I'm thinking.

If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on Moose's remaining starts coming Saturday in Long Island, on the 20th in Ottawa and maybe one of the three April games (two home games bookending a trip to Detroit).

The Devils have a lot of games in March, but the travel schedule really isn't all that bad. Three games split between Long Island, Manhattan and Philly, then three in Ottawa, Pittsburgh and Raleigh before that April trip to Detroit. The case could be made travel-wise that the Devils only have four true road games left for the rest of the year. I could see that being a factor in how often the Moose is set loose.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:30 PM

I know I'm late, but did you not see the Caps game man?


I did. Which is why I'm so disappointed about this loss. To get shut out by this team in inexcusable.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:36 PM

BTW I haven't blamed Marty for anything since that goal he gave up in Winnipeg, which the Devils went on to win 2-1 anyway.
So if anyone thinks I don't want Marty to play tomorrow because he hasn't been playing well, it isn't true.
It's just time to switch it up.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 07:43 PM

SM3 is a bit manic, but he hasnt attacked anyone personally AFAIK (maybe foster lol) if you dont like his posts then dont read them. carp has been overly negative as well


I appreciate you trying to shine some light on that situation.
Unfortunately, the way I feel better about the Devils losing is to vent because ya, I always expect them to win because they're my favorite hockey team.
Obviously it's unrealistic. I just got mad with the effort that was put forth in yesterdays game. It almost has nothing to do with them losing half of the time.
After the Devils lost to Vancouver, a game in which I attended, I think I actually praised them and said they just didn't get the bounces. They gave effort in that game so I wouldn't be stupid enough to flip out over that loss, especially to that team.
For people to say I always post nonsense isn't true either.
If anything, I'm always trying to post facts in which I gathered myself or went searching for VIA internet.
Like you said, don't read or ignore me if you have a problem because whenever someone says something annoying on here, which is definitely more common than not, I just keep scrolling the fvck along.

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