See I really believe that we know so LITTLE about the Constitution and The Bill of Rights that we can't even classify ourselves as originalist or not. I dont think anyone KNOWS what an originalist IS.
My point is We CANNOT have debate about interpretation in this thread. We need to discuss the NEED TO LEARN the charters upon which this government was founded.
I'm not saying we all need to be scholars of our charters - we just need to have knowledge - REAL knowledge of what they say. SOMETHING real upon which we can then bicker about interpretation. I honestly feel all debate in society at large is based upon not the actual documents but rather upon what some lawyer, scholar, jackass politician windbag and/blogger have TOLD us. We are arguing the interpretations of others without know in fact what the documents say to US.
I don't even attempt to discuss this stuff because I know about as much as DM84. It's more than a lot of people out there admittedly but it's not enough to actually have productive honest discourse.
I started out writing Jefferson was for States Rights and limited Federal Government -- AND he was for trashing the Constitution every 20 years. But I'm not certain of that. it's just whispers and echos of lessons skimmed long ago in an elementary school class and then a Jr High class.
An originalist is nonsense. It's a word coined by one of the aforementioned windbags we base our opinions on NOT SOMEONE WHO'S OPINION WE SHARE BASED ON THE SAME SHARED KNOWLEDGE
. THAT is what annoys me about political discussions today. The Tea Baggers are full of so much bluster. You CANNOT support them until you know The Constitution and the Bill of RIghts yourself through and through. Until you understand what they are really talking about -- what they are REALLY advocating.
The Tea Party makes it very clear to me how desperately we need to educate our citizens about our Charters. Not because I think they're schmucks, but because people who have never set eyes on the Bill of Rights are ... I dont have time to be more eloquent -- they're talking out of their uneducated ass! 1+1 = 2 The Constitution says specific WORDS. SAY the WORDS FIRST then tell me how you interpret that. Sarah Palin gets her ass in trouble so often because she DOESN'T KNOW THE WORDS! She is CLEARLY spouting interpretation. I'm not invalidating her belief -- I am saying she has to know what it's based upon or LEAVE THE CONSTITUTION OUT OF IT! Just say that's what you believe, don't misquote the Constitution if you don't know what you're talking about.
I say better yet LEARN what you are talking about. It can only make you a better person.
Edited by Pepperkorn, 15 March 2012 - 08:35 AM.