Posted 12 March 2012 - 06:36 AM
Don't get me wrong. I think Marty is one of the all time greatest goalies.. I'm just insisting that the numbers of WINS he has reflects more on the team he's been a part of then his individual performance, even though he has contributed strongly to many of them himself of course.
Again; Osgood has more wins then Hasek at roughly the same amount of games played.. Hasek is top 5 of all time imo, Osgood is likely not top 50.
Hasek's numbers are kind of screwy because he got such a late start to his career. He didn't get to be a full-time starter in the NHL until he was 29. I know since Hasek and Osgood played roughly the same number of games, so it might not make much sense to bring that up, but it's really too bad it took so long for him to become a starting goalie...he could've won 500+ games easily, though one could also argue that his playing only 53 NHL games before 29 might have helped him with his longevity...who knows?
Chris Osgood is probably better than people give him credit for, but not by much...the real telling stat with Osgood is his .905 save%, which is light years behind Hasek's lifetime .922. But to his credit, Osgood DID raise his game in the playoffs (.916). Hasek did slightly (.925), but how much better could he have been expected to be when he was the greatest pure puck-stopper of all time? But Osgood clearly benefitted from playing on stacked Detroit teams that were almost always offensive powerhouses and yearly SC contenders, while Hasek was elevating so-so/decent teams in Buffalo to good ones.
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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
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