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#101 CarpathianForest

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 12:38 AM

Positives to take:

-Parise scored a very Parise-like goal by jamming away at the net
-Henrique finally got out of his slump, same with jj to an extent
-the team came back from being down two goals twice to get a point
-all around they crushed the leafs in shots and chances
-we are more than capable of fixing the problems that occurred last night
-got a chance to experiment a bit with the lines; that never hurts the future


That is just from the top of my head. With as meaningless as this loss will turn out to be, I think a lot of good things happened. Virtually zero offense in the last few games, that concern was ended after shelling the leafs. Much better than a 1-0 win with getting just 18 shots on net and also better than a 5-0 loss.


We do need to do this against playoff bound teams, especially the line juggling. Hope PDB figures that out.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 12:41 AM

Oh weird.
We changed the lines and scored a few goals?
Never would have thought!
Overall poor performance by this team. Extremely soft and looking around on defense isn't going to result in anything good.
Glad we got a point but we should have dominates this team.
Marty can't always bail this team out in the shootout.
He won't even have a chance to in the playoffs.


How did you see this as an overall poor performance? I understand not being able to capitalize is a pretty big problem, but a lot of that has to do with puck luck that the team was simply not getting tonight. To me, it actually WAS a pretty dominant effort, that came down to a couple goals that maybe Marty could have had on another day. I also thought that their ability to tie the game up was quite promising. Some players did not seem to give it all they had tonight, but what are you gonna do?

I liked the mixing up of the lines, though. Also, the Ponikarovsky line was pretty nice to watch today. Josefson has not been having as good of a year as I had hoped, but he's beginning to show some great things. A physically stronger Josefson could definitely be a #1 center in the future, in my opinion.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 05:58 AM

Lol actually I didn't mean it like that. I used bad wording. I think he did well but because of no help from the defense he was having a rough time. At least two if not all goals against were not his fault.


I know you didn't...you worded your post fine...I was referring to other posts with my reply. And I agree, I didn't really think he was at fault. And in the shootout, his save% was well over .800 this year, so he was due to give up a few...though I think last night might have been the first time he went 0-for-3 in one. I can't remember another time offhand.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 06:25 AM

Another pathetic performance on home ice against a garbage team. Go ahead and come up with the excuses you want--you need to win these type of games. Marty was atrocious tonight.


Wrong on pretty much everything. For one, it was not a pathetic performance...frustrating at times, sure. But they did find a way to tie it up after being down two in the third...something to be said for that. And Marty was pretty much money this season in the shootout until last night...the Devils are still 11-4 in the shootout this season, which is pretty damned good.

They did NOT need to win this game. There's no way they're getting home ice...they're 8 points back of Pittsburgh, and the Penguins have two games in hand. The 5th seed is kind of in play, but barely...Philly is four points up with a game in hand. But what the hell good would it do to get up to the 5th seed? Do you really want the Devils to face the Rangers or Penguins in the first round? I sure don't.

If you're at all worried about Ottawa, I don't see how you could be...even if the Devils went 2-4-0 in their next six, Ottawa would have to win five out of six just to catch them, then they would face each other to see who would claim the sixth seed. BTW Ottawa is 3-5-2 this month, and mired in a three-game losing streak (two of the losses have come against "garbage" teams in Toronto and Montreal). They've scored just two goals in their last three games. There's not much going on to suggest they'd be able to take advantage of a Devil slump.

Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 24 March 2012 - 06:26 AM.

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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 07:32 AM

Well, the story of the game was that the coverage (and the change on goal #2) was bad when it didn't need to be. That's what was disappointing about this, that if they had played a better defensive game considering the volume against them, they win this pretty easily with 3 goals. the Leafs third goal, that is just putrid coverage. Marty didn't do anything wrong during the game, he whiffed in the shootout, but at least he tried to do something, unlike Reimer who rolled in a ball and luckily got hit on the inside of one of his pads and then acted like he'd given up the goal. :lol:

Breaks weren't great either, first goal drops off Henrique right on a guy's stick and Reimer got holes punched in him, especially in the first, and somehow the damn puck never went in after going through him.

But they gotta have better coverage, especially on that third goal, the first ten of the second was nothing to write home about either. I swear Andy Greene must have had at least a 2:30 shift when things got ugly there, he could not get off and they could not get a whistle to get him off.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 07:56 AM

They did NOT need to win this game. There's no way they're getting home ice...

I don't care about home ice. I know that's not gonna happen. What I care about is them playing consistently well heading in and also beating the teams you're supposed to beat, and if you can't beat the Leafs on your home ice how am I supposed to take you seriously come the postseason? Just annoys me to no end how this team lacks any gutsy leadership and ability to show killer instinct, that's all. They have to stop making these goalies look better than they are.

Edited by Marv4Life, 24 March 2012 - 07:59 AM.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 08:22 AM

I don't care about home ice. I know that's not gonna happen. What I care about is them playing consistently well heading in and also beating the teams you're supposed to beat, and if you can't beat the Leafs on your home ice how am I supposed to take you seriously come the postseason? Just annoys me to no end how this team lacks any gutsy leadership and ability to show killer instinct, that's all. They have to stop making these goalies look better than they are.


I thought Zach showed tremendous leadership after we went down 3-1.. Not sure how well it came across on tv but his intensity went to a different level and hey got us a second goal in true Zach fashion
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 08:52 AM

I'll take the point.

And the Canes lost. Life is good.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 09:01 AM

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:06 AM

I only saw up to us going down 2-0 as I had to leave, but I like that they battled back for the point. Nice for Jo & Adam to break their droughts, and good for Zach getting a true Parise goal... Kovy & Zach continue to be unbelievable in the shootout... surprising that Marty missed all of them but we gotta admit that Kadri's move was insane.

Overall, we got a point and Ottawa got rolled by Montreal. We're in good shape. We get another shot at Pittsburgh tomorrow... how will we respond?

let's take the season series.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:45 AM

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wow, for a second I thought that was fake or photoshopped. If you take a picture at just the right time, you get some pretty funny looking shots :lol:
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 10:45 AM

I don't care about home ice. I know that's not gonna happen. What I care about is them playing consistently well heading in and also beating the teams you're supposed to beat, and if you can't beat the Leafs on your home ice how am I supposed to take you seriously come the postseason? Just annoys me to no end how this team lacks any gutsy leadership and ability to show killer instinct, that's all. They have to stop making these goalies look better than they are.


By "consistently", I think you mean "win all of the time"...because I'm going to guess that most of your posts after losses read something like "Devils have to show that they can beat good teams" if they lose to a good team, and "Devils can't lose to teams below them in the standings" when they lose to "bad" teams. Teams good and bad lose to teams good and bad.

Stop pointing to one game like last night's to make some kind of point about what kind of team the Devils are. Do you remember how the 1999-00 Devils went into the playoffs? Not saying that these Devils will accomplish what the 2000 Devils did, but fans like you always look to blow these losses up into so much more than they are. It was a friggin' skills-competition loss where they came back down from two goals! Was it really soooooooooooo bad?

And what standard are you holding this team to? I think most realistic fans give them a shot to win a round if they can stay away from Pittsburgh, Boston, Philly and the Rangers. Beyond that, I couldn't make them the favorite against any of those teams. Face it, the Devils are about the 5th-best team in the Eastern Conference. They're going to need a hell of a lot of breaks to get past two rounds, let alone the SCF.

Edited by Colorado Rockies 1976, 24 March 2012 - 10:46 AM.

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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:40 AM

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:55 AM

Kovalchuk was really a minus 3 last night? Ugh
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 01:24 PM

Kovalchuk was really a minus 3 last night? Ugh


The Devils had 9 more shots on goal when he was on the ice 5 on 5. This isn't a problem.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:24 PM

C'mon, everything's Marty's fault. The sharks are smellin' chum in the water tonight...


14 saves on 17 shots and 0-3 in the shootout is not a good night...granted Marty hasn't been the problem of late, but he needed to be better last night. He wasn't exactly facing Bure, Lafleur, and Bossy in the shootout either

The first goal was unstoppable...but you've got to get either the Steckel goal (bigtime sniper :rolleyes: ) or the Kadri one late in the 2nd.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:54 PM

To be fair the Kadri game winning so goal was nice. He deked Marty pretty well.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:01 PM

This game wasn't about establishing home ice.
It was about perhaps a Stanley Cup contender beating an awful Maple Leafs team.
They had a lot of shots on goal but obviously they weren't good enough shots to win the game.
The Devils play just as well, if not better on the road anyway Imo.

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Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:06 PM

14 saves on 17 shots and 0-3 in the shootout is not a good night...granted Marty hasn't been the problem of late, but he needed to be better last night. He wasn't exactly facing Bure, Lafleur, and Bossy in the shootout either

The first goal was unstoppable...but you've got to get either the Steckel goal (bigtime sniper :rolleyes: ) or the Kadri one late in the 2nd.


the reason why Steckel doesn't score many goals is because he doesn't often get the puck wide open in the slot.
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Posted 24 March 2012 - 03:07 PM

Kovalchuk was really a minus 3 last night? Ugh

lots of 4th line duty
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