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[Pepperkorn]

Marty does best after an embarrassing loss I hate that chestnut.

I hate that I'm silently rooting for LA. Anyone know why?

[Zubie#8]

I am disgusted, HOW can Marty blame Anton on that ridiculous rebound that came flying at him, and then he gives up a terrible goal to Berrgenhiem. What a disgrace, this is the final straw for me, first the Rangers, then Carolina, then outplayed by Boucher and now FLORIDA. I am done. I do not want him to come back next year.

[Marv4Life]

Of course he would throw Volch under the bus even though he doesn't know how to control rebounds anymore. He can start on Thursday, but it's his last chance.

[mouse]

Marty looks done. He's certainly not reliable, or predictable, though he had moments down the stretch where he looked like the Marty of old. I can't ignore what he's done for us. Even in that hellish Canes series, we never get to game 7 without Marty standing on his head in game 5. I've defended Marty a lot recently, and I'm willing to concede that some of my arguments have been dead wrong, but I refuse to ignore a brilliant career. Maybe he wasn't as good as Roy, but he belongs in the discussion. For reasons I have articulated in other threads, I certainly take him over Hasek. There's no time for sentiment in the playoffs, but a true fan gives credit where it's due. We complain about softies, but he has the all time shutout record, so he's certainly played plenty of games without giving up a softie. We say it was the trap, or the d, but post lockout, he played in front of a sh!t d for years, and typically looked brilliant. We complain about his postseason performance, but ignore a progressively weaker group of teammates, and forget about the 3 cups, including one (2003) we had no business winning, and don't sniff without him. I would argue this is the first time since the lockout Marty's played for a decent team, and many of those guys shat the bed tonight as well. Do I believe that Marty was the worst player on the ice? Yes. Do I believe we would have won if we'd started the Moose? Yes. Would I feel better about game 4 rolling the Moose? Shockingly, considering my past opinions, yes. Do I believe that a couple of sh!t games during the last couple of years of his career destroy a legacy that was years in the making? No.

It's tough to watch a superstar decline. For years, Marty (with a ton of help from Stevens, Nieds and Dano for much of the run) spoiled us in a way very few fans have ever been spoiled. Eventually, he became average. Now, he is below average, and probably should have retired 2 years ago. It sucks to watch him struggle, and it sucks to have to fight the urge to boo him because he's earned it, or fight the urge not to because he's dragging the team down. It certainly doesn't help that there have been moments (Volch tonight, even though Volch has been crap all series) where Marty hasn't aged gracefully, to say the least. I've never had to live through this process before. The only true superstars I've rooted for long enough to really get attached were Derek Jeter (still looking good), Mariano Rivera (still dominant), Michael Strahan (retired after brilliant superbowl and very good last season), Stevens (didn't come back for the awkward, post concussion years), Nieds (left in prime), and Marty. I'm going to try to stay classy, no matter how pissed I get, and I think we should do the same. That's not saying we can't objectively bitch, because there are any number of reasons to do so, but it isn't fair to Marty, or to our memories, to discount the greatness we witnessed.

Edited by mouse, 17 April 2012 - 09:49 PM.

[iamtheprodigy]

Did you guys see the interview or are you just going off TG's tweets (if the latter, check his most recent ones)? He did not throw Volchenkov under the bus. He was asked if the long shot fooled him and he said no, that he tried to kick it to Volchenkov but it didn't work. That's it. Marty was bad tonight and I'm frustrated too but don't twist what he's saying to fit your narrative.

Edited by iamtheprodigy, 17 April 2012 - 09:51 PM.

[Beetlebum]

Martin Brodeur is a champion and he will win us game 4 single handily on thursday if he has to. This team is beating itself right now that's the only thing I can take solace in.

Halak is the goalie we should trade for by the way.

[sundstrom]

Nice to see Marty threw Volchenkov under the bus for the first goal. IMO that's the final straw. Could you see Stevens ever pulling crap like that.

Did you guys see the interview or are you just going off TG's tweets (if the latter, check his most recent ones)? He did not throw Volchenkov under the bus. He was asked if the long shot fooled him and he said no, that he tried to kick it to Volchenkov but it didn't work. That's it. Marty was bad tonight and I'm frustrated too but don't twist what he's saying to fit your narrative.

video doesn't make me feel better.

correct answer "i wanted to put the rebound to my defenseman but in the end it was the wrong play that i made. i have to be smarter than that."

whether you believe it or not, that's the right answer. elias took the entire loss on himself because of his dumb penalty but he scored a goal and was pretty good for most of the game. that's what a leader does.

marty's responses to the media are disgusting. you can't sugar coat it.

[95Crash]

Did you guys see the interview or are you just going off TG's tweets (if the latter, check his most recent ones)? He did not throw Volchenkov under the bus. He was asked if the long shot fooled him and he said no, that he tried to kick it to Volchenkov but it didn't work. That's it. Marty was bad tonight and I'm frustrated too but don't twist what he's saying to fit your narrative.

Looks like he completely shaved off the playoff beard.

[Blown01NJ]

Brodeur has ALWAYS been like this with the media.

He never takes responsibility for his own mistakes.

[Satans Hockey]

Brodeur has ALWAYS been like this with the media.

He never takes responsibility for his own mistakes.

And in all honesty who really gives a sh!t about what he says to a bunch of journalist clowns? I sure as hell don't.

[Steven M.]

And in all honesty who really gives a sh!t about what he says to a bunch of journalist clowns? I sure as hell don't.

Yeah I agree with that. As with Elias taking all the blame, does it really matter? Obviously it wasn't all his fault and I'm sure his teammates don't think so either... It's just the cliche typical response to the media.

[Blown01NJ]

Yeah I agree with that. As with Elias taking all the blame, does it really matter? Obviously it wasn't all his fault and I'm sure his teammates don't think so either... It's just the cliche typical response to the media.

It's always been one of my gripes about him.

[sundstrom]

And in all honesty who really gives a sh!t about what he says to a bunch of journalist clowns? I sure as hell don't.

teammates give a sh!t - i 100% assure you of this. i can't say this strongly enough - it is not welcomed.

[Satans Hockey]

teammates give a sh!t - i 100% assure you of this. i can't say this strongly enough - it is not welcomed.

but he said nothing bad about his teammates

[Zubie#8]

He did not take any responsibility though. Of course the soft goals he allowed killed the team, it is extremely deflating. Even on my hockey team it sucks when the goalie gives up a softie it is just a terrible feeling. Imagine it three times in a six minute span in the playoffs, not fun.

Edited by Zubie#8, 17 April 2012 - 10:27 PM.

[thelastonealive]

Well, I guess this is slightly better than the gun picture from a few years ago.

[sundstrom]

but he said nothing bad about his teammates

he did not assume blame. that is saying your teammates lost - not you.

[Satans Hockey]

He did not take any responsibility though. Of course the soft goals he allowed killed the team, it is extremely deflating. Even on my hockey team it sucks when the goalie gives up a softie it is just a terrible feeling. Imagine it three times in a six minute span in the playoffs, not fun.

and he could have easily taken the blame in the locker room after the game to the guys. Not everything that is said in the locker room makes it out to the press.

[CarpathianForest]

I agree that Marty is a few year's past his prime. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks coulda woulda shoulda about riding Clemmer into the playoffs a few seasons ago.
However, we can't put the blame all squarely on Marty. Name me a D Man we've had since Rafalski left that we could point to and say "He's our number 1 D-Man."
In addition, name me one person not named Elias, Kovalchuk or Clarkson who really seems to give extra effort when we play the Rags or when we reach the postseason.

Edited by CarpathianForest, 17 April 2012 - 10:50 PM.

[Devils Pride 26]

Well, I guess this is slightly better than the gun picture from a few years ago.

Remember this very clearly. Laughed pretty hard at this the post, I needed that. Thanks