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#141 DaneykoIsGod

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 02:59 PM

He's the owner of a team, not an elected official.


So was Doc McMullen. Think of all the nice things you've said about him on this public, online forum ....
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:00 PM

He's the owner of a team, not an elected official.

He's not the owner, he's the president and COO I believe. Come to think of it, I don't even know who the Panthers' owner is lol.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:04 PM

So was Doc McMullen. Think of all the nice things you've said about him on this public, online forum ....



Yes, and if he was still alive and read my comments he has every right to respond to me and send me a smart-ass remark.

Difference is I would either respond back or just not respond at all. Either way we would both probably look like asses and I know my opinion of McMullen is not popular on here. I wouldn't go acting like I was some victim. I reaped what I sowed.

He's not the owner, he's the president and COO I believe. Come to think of it, I don't even know who the Panthers' owner is lol.



Either way, he is not exactly a "public figure" and more of just a businessman who runs a professional sports team. No one elected him.

Edited by DevsMan84, 25 April 2012 - 03:05 PM.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:10 PM

I don't even know what is being debated anymore here. That a girl shouldn't have been rewarded with tickets to a friggin' hockey game? or that you shouldn't hurt a team president's feelings?
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:10 PM

Didn't think I saw this posted anywhere, but apparently our man here isn't new to these kind of Twitter sparring matches.

Panthers president Yormark sparks bizarre Twitter dispute with local beat writer

"GR[George Richards] has taken the very highest of roads in responding to this mess, but man...what a tale he could tell. Yormark's meetings with members of the local media are underground legend down these here parts".
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#146 DevsMan84

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:14 PM

I don't even know what is being debated anymore here. That a girl shouldn't have been rewarded with tickets to a friggin' hockey game? or that you shouldn't hurt a team president's feelings?



I am not arguing that we shouldn't hurt his feelings. I am saying 2 things:

1) If you give a smart ass comment to a team president's twitter, don't complain if he sends a smart ass reply back

2) Devils should not reward bad behavior to fans who get into arguements with other teams management online.

Again, and I can't say this enough, no one here is the good guy.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:14 PM

As of a minute or two ago, LA has more followers than Yormark.

I love you, hockey fans.

Edit: I also love TG:

@TGfireandice @LaurenAshley07: 3,221, @panthersyormark: 3,196. Apparently, Lauren's opinion can matter now.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:18 PM

So was Doc McMullen. Think of all the nice things you've said about him on this public, online forum ....


mcmullen was not a saint or a perfect owner. not that most owners are, but mcmullen blamed all the devils problems on the njsea and nearly moved them twice, once about an inch away. he did have some valid complaints about the njsea and was led on about the success the devils would have here (he was told move a team here opent he dorrs and youll sell out everynight). this was also a multi-millionaire that didnt spend any $ on the team even before lamoriello arrived and complained about the territorial payments he had to make when he relocated the team. mcmullen tried to run the devils on a limited budget (even with LL) and then complained why the devils couldnt get a early foothold with a fan base and pointed fingers instead.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:27 PM

Yes, and if he was still alive and read my comments he has every right to respond to me and send me a smart-ass remark.

Difference is I would either respond back or just not respond at all. Either way we would both probably look like asses and I know my opinion of McMullen is not popular on here. I wouldn't go acting like I was some victim. I reaped what I sowed.


Isn't that what LA said Yormark was making himself look like? :lol:

Just because people have every right no make asses of themselves doesn't mean they should. If he were alive, I'd hope Doc would find such a response to be beneath him.

As of a minute or two ago, LA has more followers than Yormark.

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Edit: I also love TG:

@TGfireandice @LaurenAshley07: 3,221, @panthersyormark: 3,196. Apparently, Lauren's opinion can matter now.


Outstanding!
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:28 PM

Isn't that what LA said Yormark was making himself look like? :lol:

Just because people have every right no make asses of themselves doesn't mean they should. If he were alive, I'd hope Doc would find such a response to be beneath him.



And she looked like an ass for making a smart-ass remark directed at his twitter and then complaining when he replied back with a smart ass remark.

This thread and post has a lot of mention of the word ass. I wonder if you do a google search for ass this thread comes up lol. A lot of perverts will be disappointed.

Edited by DevsMan84, 25 April 2012 - 03:29 PM.

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:28 PM

Maybe Yormark should give away a few tickets, they had 5500 left this morning for Thursday's game.

http://www.litterbox...devils-playoffs
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:39 PM

Then what explanation did she have other than she was upset about him accusing the Devils fans of throwing rats on the ice? No one held a gun to her head to tweet him then saying he acted like an ass.

She doesn't need an explanation to call out someone who is already calling out our fan base. I don't know why she said what she said, but it's pretty obvious that she didn't do it on the off chance of scoring free Devil tickets, which seems to be your premise.

The big deal here is the team gave her tickets and thus rewarding bad behavior. Please see my scenario where I put forth the exact same situation but instead between a Flyers fan and Dolan of the Rags. I think we are all looking at this through Devils fan blinders.

I saw it and I entirely disagree. I would absolutely support a team that supports their fans. Is it always going to be practical to give away a suite? no. It's not a big deal, you know how I know it's not a big deal? a ton of other devil fans also responded to this jackass before and after and didn't get any attention from the devils at all, and yet they aren't complaining about that. Why? because it was never about the tickets (that never existed at the time she posted anyway).
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:41 PM

Haha, LA has more followers than Yormark now. Awesome.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:44 PM

Maybe Yormark should give away a few tickets, they had 5500 left this morning for Thursday's game.

http://www.litterbox...devils-playoffs


5500 left for a Game 7?! When they haven't been to the playoffs in over a decade? Yikes, no wonder the league bent over backwards to put their other games on a weekend.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:45 PM

She doesn't need an explanation to call out someone who is already calling out our fan base. I don't know why she said what she said, but it's pretty obvious that she didn't do it on the off chance of scoring free Devil tickets, which seems to be your premise.

I saw it and I entirely disagree. I would absolutely support a team that supports their fans. Is it always going to be practical to give away a suite? no. It's not a big deal, you know how I know it's not a big deal? a ton of other devil fans also responded to this jackass before and after and didn't get any attention from the devils at all, and yet they aren't complaining about that. Why? because it was never about the tickets (that never existed at the time she posted anyway).



Please point out where I said she did it to score free tickets? I never said that at all.

Again:

1) Neither party is in the right here
2) I am not upset at LA. If the Devils offered me free tickets and I was in her shoes, I would have taken it too. Doesn't mean I am in the right or the victim.
3) I am disappointed in the Devils for rewarding a fan for what amounts to an online flaming between a fan and a team exec of an opposing team. The Devils should instead discourage fans from doing this and now that they gave her free tickets, a lot of fans will get the wrong idea and harass other team personnel.

Again, I cannot stress this enough, I am not in any way shape or form upset at her. I am upset at the response by the Devils for what was just a tit for tat online exchange that was inappropriate.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:47 PM

5500 left for a Game 7?! When they haven't been to the playoffs in over a decade? Yikes, no wonder the league bent over backwards to put their other games on a weekend.


It sounds bad, but I bet most of the fans were waiting to see if there was going to be a game 7 before buying tickets. Might as well wait a day not to deal with anything. I am sure the game will be sold out Thursday.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:48 PM

2) Devils should not reward bad behavior to fans who get into arguements with other teams management online.


You're joking with that line right?
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:50 PM

And she looked like an ass for making a smart-ass remark directed at his twitter and then complaining when he replied back with a smart ass remark.


If you think the tweets of a high-ranking executive of a public organization with stock holders and a public relations budget should be held to the same standard as those of a private individual, then no offense but I hope you never become CEO of a company I hold stock in.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:51 PM

So everyone thinks what the Devils did was a great idea and is awesome PR as this story gets picked up by media outlets all over...except for one person. Just a smart move by that Devils employee showing they have the back of a fan who was defending the team.

No need for everyone to continue to debate this for 4 pages with only fan arguing against this.
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Posted 25 April 2012 - 03:54 PM

You're joking with that line right?



How else would you call it when the head of the online marketing department gives a fan free suite tickets after getting into a spar with an opposing team's president on twitter?

If you think the tweets of a high-ranking executive of a public organization with stock holders and a public relations budget should be held to the same standard as those of a private individual, then no offense but I hope you never become CEO of a company I hold stock in.



Steve Jobs was famous for sending smart-ass replies to customers who complained about his products. Hell one of his greatest was his reply to a person who emailed him about the antenna problem with the iphone 4. Yet he is still loved and admired by a lot of people.

So everyone thinks what the Devils did was a great idea and is awesome PR as this story gets picked up by media outlets all over...except for one person. Just a smart move by that Devils employee showing they have the back of a fan who was defending the team.

No need for everyone to continue to debate this for 4 pages with only fan arguing against this.



Some have agreed with me on this forum, and dozens agree with me in the comments on the article

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But I expect the response of "Well those are probably Panthers fans, rags fans, philly fans, etc.."
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