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#1 Martyisth3b3st

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:20 PM

I don't care what the excuse is. He is the reason we lost.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:21 PM

If he's injured , free zharkov
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:28 PM

He wasn't the reason we lost (Philly dominated, just look at the shot totals), but he is definitely hurt and and he certainly isn't helping us. It really might be better to get a healthy body in there (as long as it's not Boulton or Janssen).

It's pretty clear that he is lacking that explosive speed he usually has. Groin or leg injury?
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:33 PM

I don't care what the excuse is. He is the reason we lost.


Simply, no he wasn't and even you know that's wrong. I would never say bench him. The options suck. Just stop using him so much. Dump him to a third line and play him in that role.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:37 PM

Do we really need 'three' threads including the GDT devoted to bashing Kovy? They don't have anyone available that's going to play more than 8-10 minutes at best, and none of them could even get the offensive production of the 30% Kovy we've seen in the playoffs.

And Kovy's not the reason they were utterly dominated the last 45 minutes.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:39 PM

One thing that would help is not have him on the damn penalty kill. Who the hell thought that was a good idea??
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:40 PM

Kovy is a presence and that's what's sustaining him. Unfortunately, too many unforced errors and too little hustle. I don't know who's available, but if we sit Kovy for a game or two, what about Tedenby?
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:41 PM

One thing that would help is not have him on the damn penalty kill. Who the hell thought that was a good idea??


Exactly. None of that moving forward. You have Parise, Elias, Zubrus, Zajac, Henrique, Carter and Gionta who I would trust in that role.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:48 PM

Kovy is a presence and that's what's sustaining him. Unfortunately, too many unforced errors and too little hustle. I don't know who's available, but if we sit Kovy for a game or two, what about Tedenby?


I sort of agree but playing hockey myself and having a pulled groin like 5 times wont matter, one little tweak a couple days later and its back to square one. Needs a month minimum. Only reason he is not sitting is because he is out there they still have to respect his shot. The options do suck but we NEED more speed.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:51 PM

I really don't know how kovy was the primary reason why we lost be like everyone had said it is obvious something is wrong with him physically.

Anything short of him having a broken back he is still a better option than anyone sitting unless you want to play with seven defenseman and put in larsson and even then I have my doubts with that
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:53 PM

I don't care what the excuse is. He is the reason we lost.


c'mon now. do you think ilya kovalchuk will be benched? lets think through our ideas before starting a thread...
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 05:58 PM

His hip or groin, whichever it is, is going to pop at some point anyway, so you're of that mind, just wait it out. He had a real awkward skating move in Game 7 where he had to go laterally, and I thought that was it right there.

He does need to learn how to clear the zone, though. That was particularly ugly, even on the last play he could have stayed on the board and jammed the puck up, he peeled off instead. The same play that got Larsson benched for the rest of the season. :lol:
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:03 PM

Anyone who thinks Kovy is THE reason why we lost needs to get their head examined. When you get outshot 30-11 in the last couple of periods, take stupid penalties like no tomorrow and give up ENGs you're not going to win.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:05 PM

fine play him on the pp but limit his mins
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:21 PM

Sup mayday, who are you?

Okay, maybe he isn't the only reason we lost. But he's a major factor. If he plays like he played in the regular season for just one shift the outcome of the game may have changed. He generated nothing, missed on everything, and was one of the key players at fault on 2 of the Flyers goals (didn't cover his point in overtime, and turned it over pretty horrificly on the Briere breakaway). The simple fact is, he was the worst player on the ice today. If he comes out like this in game 2, I don't want to see double digit minutes.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:23 PM

He is not the reason we lost but Kovi is playing so soft right now it is killing me. I rather see Bernier play in his spot and just use Kovi for the power play. The man can not move out there right now. Our overall lack of team speed is really showing thur, especilly our D men. Time for Lou to pull a Holmgrem this summer and make some moves for a younger faster team. Our D get beat to the outside so often now I can't keep track. Maybe time to get Larsson some playoff exp. Can't be any worse than Volchenkov flopping around out there.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:25 PM

I hate to point fingers but Marty tossed that win in the gutter by that bonehead pass out to center of the slot.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:27 PM

Sup mayday, who are you?

Okay, maybe he isn't the only reason we lost. But he's a major factor. If he plays like he played in the regular season for just one shift the outcome of the game may have changed. He generated nothing, missed on everything, and was one of the key players at fault on 2 of the Flyers goals (didn't cover his point in overtime, and turned it over pretty horrificly on the Briere breakaway). The simple fact is, he was the worst player on the ice today. If he comes out like this in game 2, I don't want to see double digit minutes.

he must be injured and in that case he should be out but who do you put in without taking away the ability of rolling 4 lines that can actually play the game?

i do agree though. im going to assume he is injured and in that case he should be playing only the power play where he can still be effective.

but at the end of the day he wont be benched. he played like this last round and he wasn't benched. no reason for him to be benched now.

Edited by Mayday, 29 April 2012 - 06:27 PM.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:28 PM

I hate to point fingers but Marty tossed that win in the gutter by that bonehead pass out to center of the slot.


no, he didn't. They had like 35 shots and 25 scoring chances. if that doesn't happen or he makes two saves or he makes the first save and someone decides to play defense, something else ends up going in.
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Posted 29 April 2012 - 06:30 PM

One thing that would help is not have him on the damn penalty kill. Who the hell thought that was a good idea??


In the regular season, there's an argument that Kovalchuk was the best penalty killing forward in the league. Even without his burst, he's decent at getting sticks into lanes and closing on defenders.
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