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#221 Aznjsn

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:52 AM

Though I'm sure like many of us, I was scared this would turn out to be one of those "games the Devils should have won", I'm glad they persevered to win the game. Despite all the unsportmanlike conduct and cheapshots that the Flyer's displayed, we came out on top. I love watching the Phailures get called for a penalty and try and goad the Devils players into taking a roughing penalty. Devils have definitely displayed discipline after the whistle, and it has paid off. We really do play well 5 on 5.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:54 AM

hell yes!!!! what a win!!

Unfortunately i had to work tonight. ive watched all the videos i can and i am THRILLED!!

So did we trap in the 3rd or not? who cares honestly we shouldn't be criticized for it.

GOOD WIN BOYS!!


We did not play a neutral zone trap in the 3rd period. They did play a passive forecheck (standard 1/2/2) where only 1 forward chases down the puck deep in the offensive zone and the other 2 wingers stay at the hash marks or higher to prevent the other team from firing the puck around the boards for a quick breakout. That is a standard formation, especially for a team with a lead in the 3rd period.

Just a great all around game!!! Going down 2-0 and coming back shows a lot about the mental makeup of this team, and frustrated the Flyers to no end. You can see it on their faces and in their actions (Hartnell throwing his gloves like a kid who didn't get the toy he wanted at Toys-R-Us, Giroux taking a cheap shot on Zubrus, basically every Flyer player complaining to the refs throughout the game and during the warmups in between periods. Just fun to see.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:40 AM

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It kind of looks like PDB (who's almost never ANGRY, so. . .)
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 11:41 AM

I still can't get over that timeout by Laviolette less then five minutes into a scoreless game :lol: Talk about being proactive. I mean really, if you have to take a timeout less then five minutes into a scoreless game clearly nothing you said in the locker room before the game did any good, so thirty seconds is going to help?


It was absolutely the right thing to do. The Devils had all the momentum and were dominating. The Flyers drew two penalties after that and scored two goals - one shorthanded. Even though the Devils have been much better than the Flyers, the timeout allowed the Flyers to get back in the game for a little while.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 11:48 AM

It was absolutely the right thing to do. The Devils had all the momentum and were dominating. The Flyers drew two penalties after that and scored two goals - one shorthanded. Even though the Devils have been much better than the Flyers, the timeout allowed the Flyers to get back in the game for a little while.


The Flyers scored 2 goals about 7 and 9 minutes later. The Flyers stayed flat coming out of that timeout, it didn't change the game at all.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 11:58 AM

The Flyers scored 2 goals about 7 and 9 minutes later. The Flyers stayed flat coming out of that timeout, it didn't change the game at all.


Agree with Laviolette calling the timeout (understood why he did it at the time), and agree that it didn't make much of an impact. Flyers taking that 2-0 lead seemed very flukey at the time...even the Devils seemed to know it on the ice...they seemed to take a "Yeah, whatever, we'll be fine, just gotta keep playing our game." approach...no nerves whatsoever. Shows how confident the Devils are in their gameplan right now.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 12:02 PM

The Flyers scored 2 goals about 7 and 9 minutes later. The Flyers stayed flat coming out of that timeout, it didn't change the game at all.


Maybe I didn't articulate my point well. The Devils didn't come out of the timeout with the same momentum. Along with that it cannot be denied that the Devils did not score first and that the Flyers may not have scored the first two without the timeout. Point is that he took the time out and the Flyers ended up leading 2-0 when it looked like it was going to start horribly for them. I'm not saying the timeout scored them two goals but you can't diss Laviolette for taking the timeout when the Flyers eventually ended up 2-0.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 12:38 PM

The Flyers scored 2 goals about 7 and 9 minutes later. The Flyers stayed flat coming out of that timeout, it didn't change the game at all.


During the regular season the Flyers were awful in the first period and numerous times Lavi would call a quick timeout and the team would respond well.. Look at how the Flyers went down 3-0 to the Pens in game 1, Lavi timeout, flyers came back stronger and won the game

A weird strategy, but it worked for them all year
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 12:47 PM

Maybe I didn't articulate my point well. The Devils didn't come out of the timeout with the same momentum. Along with that it cannot be denied that the Devils did not score first and that the Flyers may not have scored the first two without the timeout. Point is that he took the time out and the Flyers ended up leading 2-0 when it looked like it was going to start horribly for them. I'm not saying the timeout scored them two goals but you can't diss Laviolette for taking the timeout when the Flyers eventually ended up 2-0.


Flyers lost the game, why can't I credit the Devils eventual win with that early timeout by the Flyers? If a timeout is going to have an impact it's going to be immediate, and immediately following the timeout the Devils were still the better team. The timeout didn't help the Flyers garner either goal, no more than it hurt the Flyers in allowing 2 goals that period.

I'm not dissing the timeout, but it didn't help, so it was wasted. Either the timeout timing was bad or the coaching staff wasn't able to use it effectively, either way it didn't work.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 12:58 PM

During the regular season the Flyers were awful in the first period and numerous times Lavi would call a quick timeout and the team would respond well.. Look at how the Flyers went down 3-0 to the Pens in game 1, Lavi timeout, flyers came back stronger and won the game

A weird strategy, but it worked for them all year


this, i think flyers must have thought this flat first period was an issue for them and tried to stop it; not realizing that the devils play well going down a goal in the first period...

DM mentioned the stats, but i think they show a losing record when they score early, or first; at the same time id be sure devils have a winning record when they get scored on first.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 12:59 PM

Flyers lost the game, why can't I credit the Devils eventual win with that early timeout by the Flyers? If a timeout is going to have an impact it's going to be immediate, and immediately following the timeout the Devils were still the better team. The timeout didn't help the Flyers garner either goal, no more than it hurt the Flyers in allowing 2 goals that period.

I'm not dissing the timeout, but it didn't help, so it was wasted. Either the timeout timing was bad or the coaching staff wasn't able to use it effectively, either way it didn't work.


Again, the Devils did not score following the timeout. They very likely would have if no timeout was taken. No goal was scored and the Flyers were able to take the lead later on. Of course the Flyers eventually lost the game because the Devils were better in every area.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:06 PM

DM mentioned the stats, but i think they show a losing record when they score early, or first; at the same time id be sure devils have a winning record when they get scored on first.


I'm pretty sure that in every game of this series, the team that scored first has lost.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:12 PM

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DeBoer said Ryan Carter (ill) is feeling better today and should be available for Game 5 Tuesday.

Rich Chere ‏ @Ledger_NJDevils
Jacob Josefson's injury has fully healed and he will start skating soon
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:13 PM

I'm pretty sure that in every game of this series, the team that scored first has lost.


i would guess its reflected in the regular season as well.

the panthers series is out of mind right now...oh yeah 3 goal lead losses hahah

Tom Gulitti ‏ @TGfireandice
DeBoer said Ryan Carter (ill) is feeling better today and should be available for Game 5 Tuesday.

Rich Chere ‏ @Ledger_NJDevils
Jacob Josefson's injury has fully healed and he will start skating soon


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Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:24 PM

So who sits if JJ comes back? With how much time he's missed and how well all the forwards are playing, would he actually be an upgrade over who we have on the 4th line now?
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:34 PM

Tom Gulitti ‏ @TGfireandice
DeBoer said Ryan Carter (ill) is feeling better today and should be available for Game 5 Tuesday.

Rich Chere ‏ @Ledger_NJDevils
Jacob Josefson's injury has fully healed and he will start skating soon



heh. I seem to recall the players saying they wanted to stay in the playoffs long enough to get him back in the lineup. Pretty cool.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:39 PM

Remember JJ is going to start skating soon. He may not even play still unless someone else goes down.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:56 PM

I'm pretty sure that in every game of this series, the team that scored first has lost.


In the Flyers playoff series this season, the team that scores first is 1 win to 9 losses.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 02:13 PM

I highly doubt JJ is fully healed but anyway..
at this point it's hard to argue the Devils aren't running as close as it gets to all cylinders.
I'm impressed how they are just EVERYWHERE on the ice right now.
When a Cryer turns around, or has the puck, there's a Devil in his face.
That's Devils hockey & I'm glad they decided to play this way now, when it counts.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 02:21 PM

Remember JJ is going to start skating soon. He may not even play still unless someone else goes down.



If/when he gets healthy he IS NOT going to play unless someone gets injured. No need for us to tinker with the lineup right now. We have 4 strong lines that are performing extremely well....
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