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#21 Satans Hockey

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 12:04 AM

I give up. have fun throwing tantrums and being in a funk over the summer.


Being in a funk over the summer? COME ON CARP! It's game 1! That's it!
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 12:06 AM

Being in a funk over the summer? COME ON CARP! It's game 1! That's it!

Just trying to help you guys come down easy.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 01:06 AM

Do me a solid and don't post if you don't understand.


Do me a solid and don't post if you're just going to be a condescending douchebag.

I give up. have fun throwing tantrums and being in a funk over the summer.


Have fun being a lousy fan.

Just trying to help you guys come down easy.


You should probably stop offering your "help" to people didn't ask for it and don't want it. Most people consider that a pretty obnoxious trait.


Anyway, this finally put it over the edge for me. To the ignore list with you.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:31 AM

If we lose the SCF I'll be disappointed but only for like 5 minutes. This is a great club that's only been in NJ for 30 years and has had a butt-ton of success. If you look at the past 30 years the Devils have won the most Stanley Cups behind Edmonton and Detroit. The Devils are also tied with the Red Wings for most cup appearances in the past 30 years. Our club is actually sitting a lost better historically than many other teams. Buffalo(SCF 0-2), Vancouver SCF(0-3), Rags(1 cup appearance in the past 30 years), Capitals (0-1), Sharks, Maple Leafs(Last cup win and appearance 1967). I mean look at LA even. They've been around for 45 years yet this is only their second Stanley Cup Final appearance. So while losing would be a disappointment, being 3 for 5 in the Stanley Cup is nothing to scoff at. I'll be okay raising an Eastern Conference Champions banner in the Rock.


The problem with this sentiment is that, had the Devils won last night, you probably don't post this. It almost sounds like the beginnings of a concession speech. If the Devils were down 3-0 I could understand it better, but it's too early to start silver-lining searching...it's only 1-0.

In way I do understand everyone's feelings:

1) This run wasn't expected, so in ways it feels like they've already won, regardless of what happens in the SCF.
2) You never know when your team might get to another SCF, so you don't want to see the opportunity go by the wayside.

What's easy to forget is that there's another team in the same boat that also wants to win the SC just as badly as the Devils do...especially since they've never won one in their franchise history. If the Devils don't win the Cup, I'm not necessarily going to see it as an opportunity that they blew, unless they played absolutely God-awful hockey throughout the series. It could simply come down to one team playing just well enough to beat the other, and if that team turns out to be the Kings, so be it...I'd hate it and it would suck, but if LA plays well to enough to beat the Devils, so be it. Sometimes, around here, it feels like when the Devils win, they get all of the credit, and when they lose, they get all of the blame...like the other team is just along for the ride, and the Devils are the ones in complete control of each game's outcome.

Anyway, it's a 1-0 series...far far FAR from over. Lots of hockey left to be played.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:40 AM

Hhaha ate we the only two who views this thread as a joke?

I know some of you are trying to make it nice, but this is the last thing I wanna se after a big loss


It's not a joke, because many people WILL have this sentiment if we lose the series, me among them. But after an OT loss of Game 1 is not the time to be looking for moral victories. I mean bothered isn't the word...I won't be annoyed, but certainly you want to win every chance you get, especially after almost a decade of being anywhere close to here and with an uncertain future (what happens with ownership, Marty, Zach, etc).

Edited by NJDevs4978, 31 May 2012 - 06:42 AM.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:59 AM

I think it's premature, but I get what you're saying Carp. I'm just enjoying every moment of this series win or lose. I am 100% proud of this team no matter what happens the next week or 2.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:06 AM

Agreed. We're playing with house money. I contended all year that we were only a year or two away. And look at us???!!!
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:07 AM

If we lose the SCF I'll be disappointed but only for like 5 minutes. This is a great club that's only been in NJ for 30 years and has had a butt-ton of success. If you look at the past 30 years the Devils have won the most Stanley Cups behind Edmonton and Detroit. The Devils are also tied with the Red Wings for most cup appearances in the past 30 years. Our club is actually sitting a lost better historically than many other teams. Buffalo(SCF 0-2), Vancouver SCF(0-3), Rags(1 cup appearance in the past 30 years), Capitals (0-1), Sharks, Maple Leafs(Last cup win and appearance 1967). I mean look at LA even. They've been around for 45 years yet this is only their second Stanley Cup Final appearance. So while losing would be a disappointment, being 3 for 5 in the Stanley Cup is nothing to scoff at. I'll be okay raising an Eastern Conference Champions banner in the Rock.


Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I see nothing wrong with this mindset. I guess the timing is what people are up in arms about.

Having been a fan of the team back in their 12- and 13-win seasons, all I ever asked for as a fan was to see the Devils win the Cup once. If I got that, I'd die a happy man.

Well, three Cups later, there's a lot of icing on that cake.

I love cake. And I love icing. But if I don't get that 4th slice of cake (I hope somebody has a huge glass of milk handy), so be it.

Not that I wouldn't want that fourth slice, mind you...

...preferably a corner piece.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:24 AM

I think it's premature, but I get what you're saying Carp. I'm just enjoying every moment of this series win or lose. I am 100% proud of this team no matter what happens the next week or 2.



Same thoughts here.

We also didn't get destroyed last night. We lost in friggin OT. I remember for many years that going to OT for the Devils spelled certain doom, and now we are 4-2 this year and I think that's pretty damn good. We win the next game and we are now playing a best of 5 series and put serious doubt in the minds of the Kings (I think we did this in last night's game too). I trust PDB will make whatever adjustments he can make and the players know what they are playing for.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:45 AM

If they give it their all, really pay the price to win and somehow fall short, then they can hold their heads high and so will I. I'm not 100% sure they did that last night, but we gave a headstart to the Flyers and Rugs as well and that worked out fine. Bottom line is this: This is Team and it has been since '86. I was proud of them last year for the effort and heart they showed down the stretch, and I sure as sh!t am proud of them now.

[forrest_gump] And that's all I have to say about that [/forrest_gump]

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:49 AM

I will be proud of this team no matter what, but getting this far and potentially losing is a major kick in the balls. With that being said, LET'S GO DEVILS!! The series is just beginning! Can't wait to get to THE ROCK on Saturday!
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:12 AM

If they give it their all, really pay the price to win and somehow fall short, then they can hold their heads high and so will I. I'm not 100% sure they did that last night, but we gave a headstart to the Flyers and Rugs as well and that worked out fine. Bottom line is this: This is Team and it has been since '86. I was proud of them last year for the effort and heart they showed down the stretch, and I sure as sh!t am proud of them now.

[forrest_gump] And that's all I have to say about that [/forrest_gump]


THIS, although it will piss me off to no end if some rival fan brings it up to troll
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:44 AM

I love this team. I'll be proud of them if they lose. But fvck this mentally healthy, accepting sh!t. We haven't been this far in 9 years. God knows when we'll be back. I'm gonna be fvcking devastated if we lose, and I don't want to hear about the silver lining. Sports aren't real life, nor are they sane. Really, none of us should ever give a sh!t about a bunch of rich strangers playing a game, but we do, and I'm not going to half ass my irrational love for them.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:48 AM

I love this team. I'll be proud of them if they lose. But fvck this mentally healthy, accepting sh!t. We haven't been this far in 9 years. God knows when we'll be back. I'm gonna be fvcking devastated if we lose, and I don't want to hear about the silver lining. Sports aren't real life, nor are they sane. Really, none of us should ever give a sh!t about a bunch of rich strangers playing a game, but we do, and I'm not going to half ass my irrational love for them.


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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:18 AM

I won't like I'll be disappointed and sad if we don't win... last night when Kopitar scored I threw my hat and didn't want to talk to anyone for five minutes... but I would honestly get over it relatively quickly. I'm very very proud of our team. I want us to win it all and at this present moment I can't be happy with losing. I will accepted 2nd place at the end if that's how it goes down... but while it is possible to be the champs... I want it.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:28 AM

I love Mouse's version of events. Who knows when we make it back if ever? I want it all.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:36 AM

I love this team. I'll be proud of them if they lose. But fvck this mentally healthy, accepting sh!t. We haven't been this far in 9 years. God knows when we'll be back. I'm gonna be fvcking devastated if we lose, and I don't want to hear about the silver lining. Sports aren't real life, nor are they sane. Really, none of us should ever give a sh!t about a bunch of rich strangers playing a game, but we do, and I'm not going to half ass my irrational love for them.



FOR THE WIN! Great post...

My thoughts exactly. A loss in this series we hurt me exponentially more than the 2001 loss because we were coming off a Cup winning season, and we had one our first 6 years before that. While it was devastating to me at the time, and still is....this one would hurt even more. There is no explaining our connection to the team, and that is what makes us hardcore "fans". Here's to hoping they gut out a win on Saturday and send this to LA all tied up!
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:39 AM

I love Mouse's version of events. Who knows when we make it back if ever? I want it all.


EXACTLY. It was easy for us as fans to take these deep runs for granted, because...we did it all the time! But guess what fellas? Marty legend is on the way out, and we do not have those 2 HOF'ers patrolling the blueline any longer. When you get to the Finals you have to make the most of it. Especially when our path to the finals included knocking out or 2 biggest rivals in back to back series!! LET'S GO DEVILS!!! On a side note...I truly believe this run has cemented Zach's return. If the Devils offer is in the general ballpark of other teams and he does not return...I will lose ALL respect for him...

LET'S GO DEVILS!!!
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 03:43 PM

...I'd hate it and it would suck...


As rational as everything else was in my post, this sums up how I will feel if LA wins. I won't be feeling the slighest bit rational...I will be angry and sad. I root for the whole team of course, but for me this one's about Marty...I really want to see him have an opportunity to go out a winner, even if he insists on coming back next season should the Devils win it. Four cups is just awesome. Anything can happen, but if Marty's the primary goalie next season it just seems like a stretch that they will get there again next season...it feels like he's squeezing every last bit of whatever youth he has left in his 40-year-old body in these playoffs. What will he have left next year?

One falsehood I think that has to get thrown out the door is the "stepping stone" theory, that getting to a certain round in the playoffs is a step towards bigger things. With the NHL the way it is, with so many teams bunched in about the same area talent-wise, you never know if you're going back to a SCF anytime soon. Like I said, with another worthy team trying to win THEMSELVES the Cup, I can't kill the Devils if they don't get it done...but man I'll be bummed...
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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 03:58 PM

As rational as everything else was in my post, this sums up how I will feel if LA wins. I won't be feeling the slighest bit rational...I will be angry and sad. I root for the whole team of course, but for me this one's about Marty...I really want to see him have an opportunity to go out a winner, even if he insists on coming back next season should the Devils win it. Four cups is just awesome. Anything can happen, but if Marty's the primary goalie next season it just seems like a stretch that they will get there again next season...it feels like he's squeezing every last bit of whatever youth he has left in his 40-year-old body in these playoffs. What will he have left next year?

One falsehood I think that has to get thrown out the door is the "stepping stone" theory, that getting to a certain round in the playoffs is a step towards bigger things. With the NHL the way it is, with so many teams bunched in about the same area talent-wise, you never know if you're going back to a SCF anytime soon. Like I said, with another worthy team trying to win THEMSELVES the Cup, I can't kill the Devils if they don't get it done...but man I'll be bummed...


This cup would be about Marty going out on top. I think someone should let him know.
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