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#1 RunninWithTheDevil

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 05:05 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nearly-requesting-trade-devils-ilya-kovalchuk-leads-jersey-215259574.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

The criticism and public pressure came hand in hand; it affected Kovalchuk to the point where he almost requested a trade from the Devils. It was recently disclosed by Kovalchuk's own mother, Lyubov, that Ilya had those thoughts.

She spoke with Sovetsky Sport's Pavel Lysenkov and said, "it was difficult to work with that coach [John MacLean]. He didn't really let Ilya play…"

Ilya was taking it very hard. But I kept telling him 'You need to weather it, son. Prove everything on the ice.' And then there was such a time when he was ready to ask New Jersey for a trade. He didn't voice it loud, but that decision was becoming ripe. He told me on the phone: 'That's it. I am going to the general manager.' [And I said] 'What are you doing, wait! So much was done to get your contract with the Devils approved. And now you will quit?'"


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Posted 31 May 2012 - 05:07 PM

oh no.

all the kovy haters will use this to support his "bad attitude".
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 05:09 PM

who cares now, you can see that he loves it here
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 05:21 PM

interesting
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 05:24 PM

I was just reading this as well. Johnny Mac was that damn bad lol.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:21 PM

i met kovy's mom at a bar called trinity in hobo...it was after the victory against philly in the playoffs two years ago....when they came in everyone clapped....it was pretty cool her mother was so happy for him you could tell
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 06:59 PM

who cares now, you can see that he loves it here


Careers hit crossroads all of the time. Could you imagine if Ilya had actually asked Lou to trade him and it became public? He would have lost a LOT of support.

It almost hurts to see how poor of a coach MacLean was for this team...he was such a terrific player, and so important to the Devils' transition from perennial doormat to contender.

Easy to let all of this go considering how it's all worked out...but it's easy to see how Kovy could've crashed and burned before he ever really got started.
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:10 PM

If these last two years taught us anything, it's that John MacLean is the worst coach in the history of the NHL.

Edited by halfsharkalligatorhalfman, 31 May 2012 - 07:10 PM.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:18 PM

If these last two years taught us anything, it's that John MacLean is the worst coach in the history of the NHL.


He was definitely the wrong guy for this group. I would be curious to see what he could do if he ever got another shot, but who knows if he ever gets one...that was one rough stint.
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[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:29 PM

If these last two years taught us anything, it's that John MacLean is the worst coach in the history of the NHL.


We knew that already after the second half last year when Lemaire basically turned it around 180 degrees in a month. I'm hard pressed to find a coach in ANY major professional sport that had a worse tenure than MacLean, given how good the team was before and after not to mention all the locker room issues.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:43 PM

We knew that already after the second half last year when Lemaire basically turned it around 180 degrees in a month. I'm hard pressed to find a coach in ANY major professional sport that had a worse tenure than MacLean, given how good the team was before and after not to mention all the locker room issues.


Rich Kotite with the Jets.

Jerry Tarkanian with the Spurs.

Art Howe with the Mets was pretty God-awful too.
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[Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime?
- Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:49 PM

I wonder why Mama Kovy even bothered to tell this story?
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:08 PM

Rich Kotite with the Jets.

Jerry Tarkanian with the Spurs.

Art Howe with the Mets was pretty God-awful too.


Rich Kotite, you got me with that one although I guess I've blocked out memories of those two years (other than using Vance Joseph to cover Tim Brown on national TV lol) since the Jets have been at least a decent team for the most part since Parcells. They went from 3-13, then 1-15 to 9-7 in one year, and should have been at least a borderline playoff team the year before Kotite got there until choking against the Dolphins under Carroll. Art Howe was bad, but the Mets were a bad team anyway. Honestly forgot about Tark with the Spurs, I was gonna say Tim Floyd but the Bulls were just god-awful post-Jordan anyway.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 31 May 2012 - 08:11 PM.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:28 PM

I wonder why Mama Kovy even bothered to tell this story?


Devils parents have the biggest mouth in the world apparently
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:37 PM

Rich Kotite with the Jets.

Jerry Tarkanian with the Spurs.

Art Howe with the Mets was pretty God-awful too.

Moneyball doesn't portray Howe very well either. I hated that guy as Mets manager.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:39 PM

What an awful hire MacLean was.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:42 PM

Devils parents have the biggest mouth in the world apparently


Chesnokov (the writer) seems like a family friend, he got the 'in' on so many Kovy stories during the summer of madness.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:42 PM

MacLean = Devils getting Adam Larsson

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:56 PM

Chesnokov (the writer) seems like a family friend, he got the 'in' on so many Kovy stories during the summer of madness.


This story isn't by Chesnokov, it's by Pavel Lysenkov of SovSport. In general, Eastern Europeans are much more forthright with the media when it comes to these things.

Kovalchuk wasn't getting traded anywhere, though, unless the Devils wanted to take on a horrible contract to get rid of him. Where would he have gone? It's not like teams were willing to offer him 15 years in the summer, besides LA, and they weren't willing to offer that kind of money.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 11:35 PM

Kovy could have been traded to the Islanders possibly if Kovy was willing to go through with it and that 10 year 100 million offer was legit.

Edited by halfsharkalligatorhalfman, 31 May 2012 - 11:35 PM.

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