OK, so if a change was needed, why not Larsson instead of Tallinder?
Tallinder in For Harrold Game 4
Started by sundstrom, Jun 06 2012 10:49 AM
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 03:05 PM
because tallinder is a better defender. larsson can't be trusted yet with his giveaways.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 03:28 PM
Not sure who you guys are talking about, but I am refering to the Tallinder who is a combined -18 as a NJ Devil.
Who is has been nothing more than an average defender for us.
Who is has been nothing more than an average defender for us.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 03:44 PM
because tallinder is a better defender. larsson can't be trusted yet with his giveaways.
Well Larsson was just fine against the Flyers and in the first game against the Rangers. While I'd rather see him get the additional playoff experience, I can't fault them for putting Tallinder in for two reasons - size, and the fact he's a vet that's never been to the SCF before and he deserves to get in a game.
As far as Sykora, he adds something we've been missing...a guy willing to shoot and that can pick his shot. Josefson isn't going to do that. Speed isn't what's killing us anyway, it's size and an unwillingness to shoot.
Not sure who you guys are talking about, but I am refering to the Tallinder who is a combined -18 as a NJ Devil.
Who is has been nothing more than an average defender for us.
Tallinder had bad timing for the most part, the team just happened to pick it up after the All-Star break once he got shelved. The cynics might say it's not a coincidence but let's get real, we had Kurtis Foster in our D for half a season and were still fine. And a lot of that -18 was piled up in the first half of last year.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 03:46 PM
you know what i did not consider was the PK element of this. tallinder can play the PK (and well). harrold could not and zidlicky was getting out there which i would very much prefer not to happen. that's another tip in tallinder's favor.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 03:47 PM
Too bad for Harrold (who wasn't playing poorly IMO) -- if they win DeBoer won't touch the lineup, and if the lose everyone goes home. Barring injury -- and a win -- looks like Peter has suited up for the last time this season . . .
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 04:38 PM
training camp is just 90 days from now, so Harrold will get another camp to make the lineup.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:33 PM
i think hes a UFA and he wont.training camp is just 90 days from now, so Harrold will get another camp to make the lineup.
we already have zidlicky, volchenkov, greene, tallinder, fayne, and larsson for next year. he could be the 7th guy.
not to make this off topic but unless we have a trade our lineup defensively for next year is most likely:
greene-fayne
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 05:50 PM
i think hes a UFA and he wont.
we already have zidlicky, volchenkov, greene, tallinder, fayne, and larsson for next year. he could be the 7th guy.
not to make this off topic but unless we have a trade our lineup defensively for next year is most likely:
greene-fayne
tallinder-larsson
volchenkov-zidlicky
I really like that Defense. Harrold might decide to stay here though, I'd give him a NHL contract as a 7th Dman after this playoffs since he can play forward too in a pinch, Tommy Albelinstyle. I don't think he'll get any other offers really but who knows?
Lou probably wants a big body to replace Salvador though, possibly even Salvador.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:02 PM
i think hes a UFA and he wont.
we already have zidlicky, volchenkov, greene, tallinder, fayne, and larsson for next year. he could be the 7th guy.
not to make this off topic but unless we have a trade our lineup defensively for next year is most likely:
greene-fayne
tallinder-larsson
volchenkov-zidlicky
Most likely Urbom and Taormina will be on the team next year... Whether the Devils won or lost this thing changes were coming. There is going to be a lot of turnover from this year's team to next.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:15 PM
Zidlicky, Volchenkov, Tallinder, Greene, Fayne, LarssonMost likely Urbom and Taormina will be on the team next year... Whether the Devils won or lost this thing changes were coming. There is going to be a lot of turnover from this year's team to next.
I can see them resign Sal, so there is no room for them unless a trade occurs.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:23 PM
About time we got Tallinder in there. We're taking the wrong guy out but whatever.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:29 PM
When healthy Tallinder was arguably the Devils best defensemen this year. Though that debate is a bigger picture issue reserved for another time and place. I don't expect him to be anywhere near his usual self tonight, nor did I think Harrold was the worst defensemen this series, but I like this move. Down 3-0, why not change it up?
I wish Larsson could have gotten into a game but I trust DeBoer. I hate to say anything negative about Zidlicky but he's been horrible this series but I'll give him a pass since he appears to have been injured ever since the end of the Flyers series.
I wish Larsson could have gotten into a game but I trust DeBoer. I hate to say anything negative about Zidlicky but he's been horrible this series but I'll give him a pass since he appears to have been injured ever since the end of the Flyers series.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:44 PM
Zidlicky, Volchenkov, Tallinder, Greene, Fayne, Larsson
I can see them resign Sal, so there is no room for them unless a trade occurs.
I'm not confident at all in them re-signing Sal. I can definitely see it as a possibility, but one of Urbom/Gelinas will likely be up here next year. I could see Sal getting offers/a raise from other teams. Harrold is also UFA and he could also be re-signed. If there's 8 D men on the squad, there's 2 spots and 4 possibilities with 2/4 being UFA.
Its also a possibility that if we lose Parise (hell, even if we dont), Lou goes out and shops for an upgrade on D. That will muddy it even further.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:55 PM
We should go after Martinez.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 07:13 PM
Zidlicky, Volchenkov, Tallinder, Greene, Fayne, Larsson
I can see them resign Sal, so there is no room for them unless a trade occurs.
There will be room and it's possible that one of Urbom/Taormina is traded also. This D is going to look at least halfway different next year. 3 of them will be somewhere else.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 09:00 PM
Tallinder looks pretty sharp tonight... Even Sykora is looking nice and quick, he's got some pep in his step; the break's done him some good..
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 09:57 PM
well i think we can all pretty much agree that both lineup additions were a success tonight
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 11:14 PM
eating crow. tallinder was excellent tonight.
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Posted 06 June 2012 - 11:36 PM
Tally was great.Special shout out to sykie, who was fresh and smart out there.
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