only part I dont get is this "being hurt" .. all I see is a typical Russian forward, its like with OV late playoffs, the more he sat the better the club did .. lol
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Posted 07 June 2012 - 11:14 PM
Maybe he needs a few more shots or whatever they are giving him to keep him going, but you don't bench Kovy. He has the heart of a lion, and he's as much a Devil now as ANYONE who has worn the colors.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 12:30 AM
Kovy can't skate, but he still shoots and and gets pucks to the net, moreso than any other player on the team.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:22 AM
Kovy can't skate, but he still shoots and and gets pucks to the net, moreso than any other player on the team.
Which they need. The best way to beat Quick seems to be scrambles and rebounds, and you need shots on net for those to happen. I'd like to see them use Kovy better -- let him shoot faster and handle the puck less to minimize his skating, have somebody like Clarkson or Parise crashing as soon as he gets the puck -- but he still has 1 valuable tool left.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:22 AM
I'd rather see Harrold come in and do his Kovalchuk impression again. They guy is clearly hurt, and I admire his toughness to play through pain. But I think the team is better off with him out of the lineup. The Power Play is just an absolute train wreck with him in there.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 01:35 PM
I screamed for him to be benched after the first game against Philly. Since that game, excluding the SCF, he's the main reason we're still playing hockey.
He's got 19 points in the playoffs. "Typical russian player", such a sh!t thing to say. He's probably exhausted and almost definitely hurt, let's see how he responds after two days off.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 01:46 PM
I screamed for him to be benched after the first game against Philly. Since that game, excluding the SCF, he's the main reason we're still playing hockey.
He's got 19 points in the playoffs. "Typical russian player", such a sh!t thing to say. He's probably exhausted and almost definitely hurt, let's see how he responds after two days off.
He is obviously hurt (I hope). But he isn't playing good at all this series.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 01:47 PM
according to TG, he looked good in practice.
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Posted 08 June 2012 - 09:02 PM
I want to smash my head against the wall reading some of the posts in here. Harrold for Kovalchuk, are you drunk?
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:07 AM
He is obviously hurt (I hope). But he isn't playing good at all this series.
dito....he's playing like he's hurt or disinterested
i wish we knew more info
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dito....he's playing like he's hurt or disinterested
i wish we knew more info
Clearly he must be terribly disinterested. I mean, it's the Stanley Cup Final, how incredibly boring.
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:33 AM
Clearly he must be terribly disinterested. I mean, it's the Stanley Cup Final, how incredibly boring.
your right...he's got to be injured...its annoying to watch him and know he's not playing close to where he can play
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 12:08 PM
only part I dont get is this "being hurt" .. all I see is a typical Russian forward, its like with OV late playoffs, the more he sat the better the club did .. lol
Yea. No lol here....what a fvcking a bad post.
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 02:29 PM
You can question his play all you want, but not his toughness. He's been a warrior since he got here, moreso this year than ever. He played ridiculous minutes early in the year, he gets up every time he gets hit, and he's never complained even though he can barely fvcking skate. Maybe he needs to play fewer minutes, but it's a testament to his toughness that he's playing what the coaches tell him.
Also, I'm sick of the Russian stereotype. Ovie is a tough player who throws the body. He was out of shape this year, but so was Dustin Penner, and I've never heard him called a soft Canadian. The racial generalizations make it impossible to have an intelligent discussion. If Kovy wasn't Russian, his toughness wouldn't be called into question and we could talk about real issues, like does his current skillset benefit the team, or is his lack of mobility too much of a liability.
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We have noone else even remotely close to Kovys shooting and passing ability, even now that he is clearly hurt. The question is whether his injury makes him so much of a defensive liability that it's not worth the gamble. Considering we are playing game 6 of the SCF and he is the league leader in playoff points, I'd say the answer pretty much gives itself.
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 03:28 PM
was the herniated disk thing just a rumor?
by the way herniated disks are weird -- they aren't the same for all people.
Like an ACL injury -- my sister in law blew hers out skiing and she can do nothing now nothing that involved impact on her knee. She had the whole surgery and all that. Other friend INSANE expert skier - he has no ACLs - blew them both out never had surgery just found it didn't really make much of a different to him.
My sister has 2 or three herniated disks. We have no idea for how long and some days she's bad sometimes she can go years with nothing... never had surgery -- she lives with it and false ups now and then.
by the way herniated disks are weird -- they aren't the same for all people.
Like an ACL injury -- my sister in law blew hers out skiing and she can do nothing now nothing that involved impact on her knee. She had the whole surgery and all that. Other friend INSANE expert skier - he has no ACLs - blew them both out never had surgery just found it didn't really make much of a different to him.
My sister has 2 or three herniated disks. We have no idea for how long and some days she's bad sometimes she can go years with nothing... never had surgery -- she lives with it and false ups now and then.
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 04:08 PM
was the herniated disk thing just a rumor?
Rich Chere has said it, but nobody else has had it.
It looks reasonable based on how Kovy acts on the ice, but Chere didn't say where he got the info from so I don't know if he had a source or was guessing based on how it looks.
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 04:09 PM
The best Kovy I saw this year was the hat trick game against the Islanders. He was flying all over the ice making great passes, good decisions, and he wanted the puck every shift. Just imagine if we had that guy right now, our top line would be rolling.+1
We have noone else even remotely close to Kovys shooting and passing ability, even now that he is clearly hurt. The question is whether his injury makes him so much of a defensive liability that it's not worth the gamble. Considering we are playing game 6 of the SCF and he is the league leader in playoff points, I'd say the answer pretty much gives itself.
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The best Kovy I saw this year was the hat trick game against the Islanders. He was flying all over the ice making great passes, good decisions, and he wanted the puck every shift. Just imagine if we had that guy right now, our top line would be rolling.
Our top line would be better, but to be fair to Kovy and the Kings here...
LA is only about 15x better than the Isles, lol
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We have noone else even remotely close to Kovys shooting and passing ability, even now that he is clearly hurt. The question is whether his injury makes him so much of a defensive liability that it's not worth the gamble. Considering we are playing game 6 of the SCF and he is the league leader in playoff points, I'd say the answer pretty much gives itself.
He is hurt I am sure of it, but while he doesnt have the jump. He appears to be more thoughtful of defence knowing he is playing injured.
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Posted 10 June 2012 - 04:17 PM
Lol obviously, but just the speed and tenacity he showed during that stretch of games was incredible. It would really make a difference right now.Our top line would be better, but to be fair to Kovy and the Kings here...
LA is only about 15x better than the Isles, lol
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