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#61 Jerrydevil

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:52 PM

I'm not going there, I'm really not. Bernier wasn't trying to sell a call, it was a natural reaction when the stick is inches from your eyes.


And I'm not taking him off the hook tonight. I'm not going there.

But yeah, I should be OK with him by training camp should he still be here. Just not now.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:53 PM

Carp and 7 are right, what Steve Smith (a then-rookie defenseman) did was a lot worse than Bernier's penalty that got turned into a five-minute major by overofficious refs. And Bernier didn't pull a Tom Glavine and say, hey there are more important things than a game either.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:54 PM

Um, I don't drink. I'm as sober as the day is long.

After Steve Smith scored in his own net in the Conference Final I'm sure fans were calling for his head. I advise you watch the footage because it is brutal. I believe it even happened on Oiler ice. Steve Smith is openely crying on the bench and to add to the pain it was his birthday.
However, the team didn't turn their backs on him and he wasn't traded or dumped off somewhere.
As a matter of fact, the next year when the Oilers won the cup, Gretzky handed the trophy off to Smith first which, imo, is not only a character move, but also a true sign of sportsmanship.

3Cups, did you see the Devils playoffs opening montage on the scoreboard with the Patton quote. Every man is a vital link in the chain, they eat, sleep and fight as a team. To purely blame this all on Steve Bernier is not only dumb, it's just not what true sportsmanship is about. The Devils could have weathered the 5 minutes better, but they fell apart during the 5 minutes. That is not on Steve Bernier.
If anything this season proved is that you win as a team and you lose as a team. I say re-sign Bernier and allow him to redeem himself.


Sorry, Bernier is nowhere near good enough to warrant bringing him back after that atrocity...

We will find another 4th liner just fine...

So long Bernier
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:55 PM

Lou loves 1st round flameout reclamation projects. Bernier fits the bill, big, strong...decent skillset. Had some success at the NHL level. He could be like a mix of Rupp and McKay. We should keep him around

want Rod Pelley back on the 4th line? How about Tim Sestito?


Yeah, like putting Cam Janssen or Eric Boulton in would have gotten us way better results than putting that bum Bernier out there. What was PDB thinking, putting a guy like Bernier into crucial game 6?
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:56 PM

yea, the penalty sucked. but giving up 3 goals with a terrible penalty sucks even more.

Bernier contributed to a great forecheck in a huge way for his line. he was a force and i am glad he's been on this team.

If he doesn't take that penalty, i am almost positive this thread isn't created, which is why it should not exist- because it was one penalty
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:58 PM

Well who's ready to come up to take his spot from Albany next year? Is Whitney ready after one year (and leading the team in points)? Or do they go outside and sign a UFA for the 4th line?

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 10:58 PM

Sorry, Bernier is nowhere near good enough to warrant bringing him back after that atrocity...

We will find another 4th liner just fine...


So long Bernier


Yeah, that'll work. We'll find another 4th liner who has awesome chemistry with Gionta and Carter. You do know that our 4th line is as good as some team's 2nd and 3rd lines?
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:00 PM

And I'm not taking him off the hook tonight. I'm not going there.

But yeah, I should be OK with him by training camp should he still be here. Just not now.


Hey I'm not saying it's not valid to hold it against him...I just shudder at the thought this was somehow deserved because of what may or may not have happened in the Ranger series, after all the crap the Kings did get away with (and all their whining about our players faking injuries when blood was drawn).

Lou loves 1st round flameout reclamation projects. Bernier fits the bill, big, strong...decent skillset. Had some success at the NHL level. He could be like a mix of Rupp and McKay. We should keep him around

want Rod Pelley back on the 4th line? How about Tim Sestito?


Sestito had eight great minutes in the playoffs this year lmao.

Yeah, it's tempting to say a fourth-liner is expendable but it took us long enough to find a fourth line this year. The fourth line cost us games in the regular season, probably was the reason guys like Kovy, Parise and Elias got worn down by the end of this run.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:00 PM

Yeah, that'll work. We'll find another 4th liner who has awesome chemistry with Gionta and Carter. You do know that our 4th line is as good as some team's 2nd and 3rd lines?



Bernier was the most replaceable of all the players on the line. Plug another guy in there with Carter and Lil Gio and we will be ok....
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:03 PM

Bernier is also the youngest and has the most upside...he can still be a 15-20 40pt man in this league
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:04 PM

and he's big! he really is a force on the 4th line and the forecheck
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:05 PM

Bernier claimed he didn't even see the Gionta hit so it wasn't a retaliation situation.


So much for benefit of the doubt. It was just a senseless, stupid followthrough. Maybe the NHL needs the same jerseys as the Pee Wees where there's a giant stop sign on the back.

I'm not going there, I'm really not. Bernier wasn't trying to sell a call, it was a natural reaction when the stick is inches from your eyes.


I don't buy it. I believe it was the next game where Josefson took a stick straight to the grill and he wasn't phased at all. And that's Josefson. New Jersey's own Mr. Glass.

Bye Bye, Bernie. I really, honestly do appreciate all the guts and heart you showed throughout 99% of the playoffs. But the other 1% was ugly and non-Devil enough to where I won't bemoan your departure.

Besides, let's be honest. After these playoffs, both Carter and Bernier will be courted by other teams. If I had to choose between the two as to who I'd be more willing to overpay and give $1M+ to in order to keep him, it's an easy choice. Carter.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:06 PM

So much for benefit of the doubt. It was just a senseless, stupid followthrough. Maybe the NHL needs the same jerseys as the Pee Wees where there's a giant stop sign on the back.



I don't buy it. I believe it was the next game where Josefson took a stick straight to the grill and he wasn't phased at all. And that's Josefson. New Jersey's own Mr. Glass.

Bye Bye, Bernie. I really, honestly do appreciate all the guts and heart you showed throughout 99% of the playoffs. But the other 1% was ugly and non-Devil enough to where I won't bemoan your departure.

Besides, let's be honest. After these playoffs, both Carter and Bernier will be courted by other teams. If I had to choose between the two as to who I'd be more willing to overpay and give $1M+ to in order to keep him, it's an easy choice. Carter.



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Carter > Bernier

And it isn't even close
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:07 PM

Well who's ready to come up to take his spot from Albany next year? Is Whitney ready after one year (and leading the team in points)? Or do they go outside and sign a UFA for the 4th line?

Unfortunately the Devils foward depth sucks. Zharkov is probably going to the KHL, Whitney had a great year but is just 5'6 and was a rookie despite being 24 by the end of the year so he screams AHL guy, Zalewski could be a solid 4th line option for the Devils, Hoeffel and Wohlberg aren't ready, who knows what they'll get out of Tedenby going forward.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:10 PM

Carter is my new favorite player. I love his play on the ice and I like how he conducts himself off the ice. He is a very well spoken individual.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:14 PM

i am completely honest when i say i have liked Carter the majority of the year.

Right from the get go, he showed he was fierce and aggressive. i didn't see it as premature but i could tell he was passionate and a strong player. he plays nice on the forecheck and makes the little, important plays. he makes things happen, and has definitely helped us get to where we ended up.

my vote is that we keep him 100% :cheers:
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:15 PM

Carter is my new favorite player. I love his play on the ice and I like how he conducts himself off the ice. He is a very well spoken individual.


I'm high on carter too and hope he sticks around for next season

Edited by DevsMan84, 11 June 2012 - 11:15 PM.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:16 PM

Unfortunately the Devils foward depth sucks. Zharkov is probably going to the KHL, Whitney had a great year but is just 5'6 and was a rookie despite being 24 by the end of the year so he screams AHL guy, Zalewski could be a solid 4th line option for the Devils, Hoeffel and Wohlberg aren't ready, who knows what they'll get out of Tedenby going forward.


I keep forgetting he's only 5'6. Not a good fit for the 4th. Maybe a fill in for the 2nd at some point.

I still think Bernier should stay though.
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#79 Vic Rattlehead18

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:19 PM

Yeah, that'll work. We'll find another 4th liner who has awesome chemistry with Gionta and Carter. You do know that our 4th line is as good as some team's 2nd and 3rd lines?


I disagree with everyones hate for bernier right now. But Josefson. It could be called the centerman line haha
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 11:57 PM

Again, I stand by Steve Bernier. We got fvcked in this game, and I'm sorry- if you don't agree, then we'll just have to leave it at that. This game was skullfvcked by Dan O'Rourke and that motherfvcker can fall in a puddle of AIDS and disintegrate for all I care. Also, fvck the Kings, those p*ssy fvcking cocksuckers. They're as cheap as a 2 dollar whore. I hope someone puts laxatives in their champagne.

Edited by MadDog2020, 12 June 2012 - 12:00 AM.

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