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Posted 17 June 2012 - 08:28 PM
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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:04 PM
Nice article man. I didn't realized you blogged, I'll have to add it to my list.A quick read on the five Devils restricted free agents.
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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:23 PM
Think about it, signing Parise and Suter in the same off season would have the Devils sign the two most lucrative free agents on the market, by a long shot. When have we ever done that before?
They came pretty close two offseasons ago with Kovy and Volchenkov lol. I don't even remember who else was a big deal that year, Paul Martin?
the issue isn't so much spending to the cap on a year by year basis. i would think this team has about $80mm in revenue w/ one round of playoffs. the issue is that they need to make enough profit to somehow get this loan paid off in the next 10 years. there's no $80mm payment coming this summer in any way. Its going to be refinanced to where, say, $20mm is paid and the loan is stretched out another 5-10 years.
regarding suter - everyone is right - technically he is affordable. but its a huge waste of resources to go after him. it is not a position of need for the devils. unless volchenkov is being traded (NMC) there's not really a slot for him. the devils defense was fairly excellent this year and should only improve next year with a full year of tallinder and zidlicky and a sophomore year from Larsson.
The other issue is if you do re-sign Zach it'll probably be a frontloaded deal. To what degree, who knows...but if you have Kovy getting $11 million per year the next few years and Zach getting some hefty salaries too, then you have to spend at least several million over the cap just to get to the cap.
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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:38 PM
Thanks man. I was/am a freelance journalist for a little while in to keep busy and a friend of mine asked me to help out for his blog. Just a more constructed place to put my thoughts.Nice article man. I didn't realized you blogged, I'll have to add it to my list.
I really think Fayne is a great defensemen, it is disappointing to think replacing him would be easy and he isn't worth much more than $1.5M
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 11:29 AM
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Devils GM Lou Lamoriello said Monday that not all of team's potential RFAs will receive qualifying offers, but D Mark Fayne already did.
Devils GM Lou Lamoriello said Monday that not all of team's potential RFAs will receive qualifying offers, but D Mark Fayne already did.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 12:32 PM
Are we rumored to be after any players besides parise? I havnt heard anything. But maybe thats good news cause it seems like whenever we are rumored to be after players in free agency we dont get them. I remember being really surprised by the volchenkov, tallinder, moose summer. I dont think we were connected to them at all going into free agency*
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 12:36 PM
Josh Harding is off the board. Re-upped with Minnesota.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 06:48 PM
Are we rumored to be after any players besides parise? I havnt heard anything. But maybe thats good news cause it seems like whenever we are rumored to be after players in free agency we dont get them. I remember being really surprised by the volchenkov, tallinder, moose summer. I dont think we were connected to them at all going into free agency*
The Devils are never connected to anyone until it happens, besides our own guys staying/going. I cannot recall one Devils rumor (aside from midseason trades Kovalchuk and Zidlicky) that have ever happened and none in respect to free agents. Its best to disregard Devils rumors for the most part, especially free agents that have never played here before.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:06 PM
Maybe I'm wrong, but one or both of the Volchenkov/Tallinder signings were almost reaction actions when Martin left.Are we rumored to be after any players besides parise? I havnt heard anything. But maybe thats good news cause it seems like whenever we are rumored to be after players in free agency we dont get them. I remember being really surprised by the volchenkov, tallinder, moose summer. I dont think we were connected to them at all going into free agency*
What also was confusing last year was when we got Janssen then Boulton after that. Still doesn't make sense.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 01:28 AM
Maybe I'm wrong, but one or both of the Volchenkov/Tallinder signings were almost reaction actions when Martin left.
What also was confusing last year was when we got Janssen then Boulton after that. Still doesn't make sense.
You could say they were reactions but Lou already knew Martin was gone. He asked him before July 1 if he would take a discount to stay. He said no and Lou was ready to offer Tallinder an Volchenkov more than anyone else but still less than Martin. I was against that move at the time but it has proven to be correct.
Boulton doesn't make sense now but he was not the worst player in hockey before he got here. He is now of course. And Janssen was on a 2-way. I don't know that Lou really thought over the summer they'd both make the team.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 10:00 AM
I agree with the last paragraph. Even though I hate how Boulton still has a year left, I can't beat up Lou too badly. It appears that Boults is well liked in the locker room and you really don't want to mess with chemistry. I recall Kovalchuk being upset when news broke of him being placed on waiversYou could say they were reactions but Lou already knew Martin was gone. He asked him before July 1 if he would take a discount to stay. He said no and Lou was ready to offer Tallinder an Volchenkov more than anyone else but still less than Martin. I was against that move at the time but it has proven to be correct.
Boulton doesn't make sense now but he was not the worst player in hockey before he got here. He is now of course. And Janssen was on a 2-way. I don't know that Lou really thought over the summer they'd both make the team.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:19 AM
You could say they were reactions but Lou already knew Martin was gone. He asked him before July 1 if he would take a discount to stay. He said no and Lou was ready to offer Tallinder an Volchenkov more than anyone else but still less than Martin. I was against that move at the time but it has proven to be correct.
Boulton doesn't make sense now but he was not the worst player in hockey before he got here. He is now of course. And Janssen was on a 2-way. I don't know that Lou really thought over the summer they'd both make the team.
All you have to do is Google "Paul Martin bad contract", and you'll see how things have been going for him in Pittsburgh. Lou was 100% right on that one. I never looked at Martin and thought "$5 mil per year", same as I never looked at Gio and thought "$5 mil per year". Gotta give Lou credit for not being the guy who follows everyone else jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge. When it comes to guys he let walk, he's usually been proven right.
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Confirmed that D Mark Fayne (previously reported), D Matt Corrente and RW Vladimir Zharkov all received qualifying offers.
Interested in the # for Fayne, not surprised at Corrente, and glad about Zharkov. I have no complaints.
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Interested in the # for Fayne, not surprised at Corrente, and glad about Zharkov. I have no complaints.
Usually qualifying offers are for the minimum that can be offered, it ensures you retain the players rights while you negotiate the real contract. So Fayne likely go offered $582,750, with both sides knowing that isn't a real offer, just a formality.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:57 PM
What's everyone think about Zharkov? Is he off to the KHL if he isn't guaranteed time in the NHL (aka 1-way contract?)
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:57 PM
Usually qualifying offers are for the minimum that can be offered, it ensures you retain the players rights while you negotiate the real contract. So Fayne likely go offered $582,750, with both sides knowing that isn't a real offer, just a formality.
Im aware of this being a formality. Fayne will be getting more than that. Thats why Im curious about the #, I know he wont be sticking at the qualifier.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:58 PM
I love Zharkov! I hope he stays here and impresses everyone during camp, maybe he can put some pucks in the net for once...I can dream.What's everyone think about Zharkov? Is he off to the KHL if he isn't guaranteed time in the NHL (aka 1-way contract?)
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