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[Amberite]

I was really sad and disappointed when this happened earlier, but I have to say that after taking some time to think it over, we really made out well today. Granted, we are really screwed in the short term, but this is a temporary setback and we'll be a much better team down the line. Minnesota GROSSLY overpaid for Suter and Parise, and while it will make them better in the immediate future, these two contracts will haunt them for many years sooner than they realize.

Make no mistake, $7.5M cap hit for both of these guys is laughable. Even in his prime, Parise is a very borderline $7.5M player, and he is already showing signs that he is only good for 70-80 points. In 5 years, he'll be a 50 point player and it will only go down from there. Suter is an even worse overpayment, as a large part of his success was Weber, who he won't have now. Suter is also not close to a game changer in the mold of Niedermeyer, Pronger, Lidstrom, etc, and yet he's getting paid like it.

In the end of the day, we did NOT want these contracts, and Minnesota really made a mistake today. They are only marginally closer to being a playoff team, yet still very far from being a true contender. And to make matters worse, they've really sold out their future. The Devils are definitely in worse shape today than they were yesterday, but Parise is not such a truly elite player (ala Kovalchuk) where it will be impossible to replace him with some time.

In the end, we'll be fine, and we'll be better for it.

[devilsrule33]

Listened to interviews with LeBrun, Dreger, and Arnott today. Here are some interesting tidbits from them:

- Suter told teams that he wanted to be on his farm July 1st and if any team came up there, they would be out of the running. He eventually met with Detroit the next day because he was very interested.

- While Parise was camped out in his Toronto office, the only team that ever got a face-to-face meeting was the Devils and Lou Lamoriello the days before free agency.

- Philly offered both players well over $100 million for both players. And while it seems that the Flyers offered both the most, it never seemed like they had a chance at either.

- Chicago was in heavy for Parise and Suter, but Suter had no interest at all, and Parise passed

- Ken Holland told Pierre LeBrun that he would have matched Minny for Suter, if given the chance. They desperately wanted Suter.

- Like everyone has said, Suter and Parise only started talking about this on the evening of July 2nd. There might have been discussions before in the year, but this only got serious after two days of hearing offers. This was not something they started free agency really thinking about or talking to teams about possibly doing.

- Pittsburgh was 100% told they were out last night.

- Parise was offered possibly more by Minny, but it was important to him that he and Suter had identical deals.

- Unlike Lou, David Poile felt totally blindsided. He never thought Suter would go anywhere else. He even took a big run at Parise too. Was devastated that Suter never gave him the opportunity to match because he probably would. There is a general feeling that Weber will be gone now too. This isn't about a team not being able to afford their stars. They just want to go elsewhere. Poile won't make the same mistake again, and expect Weber to be dealt sometime during the year like Kovalchuk was if a deal can't be reached.

- In the end, these two guys wanted to go home to Minny and play together. Even though they got huge deals there, this money would have come from anywhere and some of the best teams in the league were after both.

- The bonuses were not something that was a must and not something they asked each team. Seemed like something Minny was interested in doing to entice both players.

- As for collusion: None of the insiders seem to really care. Sighted Jordan Staal and Eric talking. Wondering when Marc joins them. It's not against CBA rules so no big deal. "Something that has always gone and always will."

Edited by devilsrule33, 05 July 2012 - 01:09 AM.

[Devils Pride 26]

I think I've calmed down. My heart hurts though. It really does. I REALLY don't want to hate Zach but I cannot help it now. Man, this just... sucks.

Feels like some douchenozzle just ran off with your high school sweet heart that you were with well before she was super hot, back when she had braces, weird and plenty of people passed her up. fvck. I have three Parise shirts I'll never wear again. I was at the Rock after they got off the bus in the finals. In ear shot of Parise screaming 'Don't worry' and smiling. fvck.

I've said some stupid things and I know a lot of emotions are being unleashed here, but, we are going to need each other to get through this. No time to feel sorry for ourselves.

[CarpathianForest]

Stan Fischler@StanFischler

If I'm not mistaken, Semin's agents are in New Jersey

Is that a real tweet?
Stupid stupid stupid.
Suter wanted to play out west or in the western conference? Tennesee is more southeast last time I checked.
I still can't fathom that Zach wouldn't tell Suter to come play for the Eastern Conference champs instead of going to Minnesota. Fvck them and the Mary Tyler Moore show!

[grcenter47]

Is that a real tweet?
Stupid stupid stupid.
Suter wanted to play out west or in the western conference? Tennesee is more southeast last time I checked.
I still can't fathom that Zach wouldn't tell Suter to come play for the Eastern Conference champs instead of going to Minnesota. Fvck them and the Mary Tyler Moore show!

My friend texted me it so hopefully

[Zubie#8]

My friend texted me it so hopefully

This is confirmed, Stan tweeted that 6 hours ago.

[Satans Hockey]

Check this beauty out...

Sherry Ross ‏@SherryDarlingNJ

Little did we know the C on Parise's jersey stood for "C-ya, suckers!" Yes, I was fooled. And it is the collusion vibe that taints it.

[grcenter47]

Do you think Semin would buy into our system like Kovy did?

[Satans Hockey]

Sherrys on a roll...

Sherry Ross ‏@SherryDarlingNJ

Uses for your old Parise shirt: Wait for Halloween, go out with a shopping bag stuffed with $100 million in Monopoly money

Sherry Ross ‏@SherryDarlingNJ

Uses for your old Parise shirt: Stand on your head, pretend it's an Andy Greene jersey.

[Devils731]

Stan Fischler is being a bit tease-y here. Mark Gandler, who I believe is still Semin's agent, is based out of Franklin Lake, NJ for International Sports Advisors.

Edited by Devils731, 04 July 2012 - 10:23 PM.

[CarpathianForest]

Do you think Semin would buy into our system like Kovy did?

I think what we did with Kovy makes the Devils an attractive option for Semin. If you recall in the first half of the 10-11 season, Kovy was sarcastically touted as the 100 million dollar man when he was struggling to put up points. Now even Kovy haters like Jeremy Roenick are conceding that Kovy has totally changed his game and a less selfish, hard working player.

[NJDevs4978]

Check this beauty out...

Sherry Ross ‏@SherryDarlingNJ

Little did we know the C on Parise's jersey stood for "C-ya, suckers!" Yes, I was fooled. And it is the collusion vibe that taints it.

And this is basically 24 hours after this tweet:

Sherry Ross ‏@SherryDarlingNJ
And I won't write anything until this is over. Zach is one of the best star athletes I have ever worked with, and that covers 32 years.

So yeah the fans weren't the only ones that got fooled here.

[grcenter47]

I think what we did with Kovy makes the Devils an attractive option for Semin. If you recall in the first half of the 10-11 season, Kovy was sarcastically touted as the 100 million dollar man when he was struggling to put up points. Now even Kovy haters like Jeremy Roenick are conceding that Kovy has totally changed his game and a less selfish, hard working player.

How is his off-the-ice behavior. Wasnt he always clubbing and partying with Ovechkin?

[TheMazz]

How is his off-the-ice behavior. Wasnt he always clubbing and partying with Ovechkin?

That's the first I ever heard of that.

[Mayday]

If it makes anybody feel better the Wild will have Parise when he is 38 with a NTC and a 7.5M cap hit. By that time he won't be nearly as effective because of his style of play.

[MadDog2020]

And this is basically 24 hours after this tweet:

Sherry Ross ‏@SherryDarlingNJ
And I won't write anything until this is over. Zach is one of the best star athletes I have ever worked with, and that covers 32 years.

So yeah the fans weren't the only ones that got fooled here.

Zach should run for office. He's a world class fraud.

[CarpathianForest]

How is his off-the-ice behavior. Wasnt he always clubbing and partying with Ovechkin?

Every other professional athlete goes clubbing and partying a lot. If you bring him in then you just set expectations for him. Getting away from Ovechkin may actually help him. Besides he can't be any worse than Patrick Kane.

Edited by CarpathianForest, 04 July 2012 - 10:41 PM.

[ice dog]

Sherrys on a roll...

Sherry Ross ‏@SherryDarlingNJ

Uses for your old Parise shirt: Wait for Halloween, go out with a shopping bag stuffed with $100 million in Monopoly money

Sherry Ross ‏@SherryDarlingNJ

Uses for your old Parise shirt: Stand on your head, pretend it's an Andy Greene jersey.

gotta admit Sherry Ross is mutha' puck'n AWESOME.

[JWomp]

Sherrys on a roll...

Sherry Ross ‏@SherryDarlingNJ

Uses for your old Parise shirt: Wait for Halloween, go out with a shopping bag stuffed with $100 million in Monopoly money

The Tweet she followed this up with makes it even better:

Sherry Ross ‏@SherryDarlingNJ

That Halloween idea works best if you go out with someone in a Suter jersey carrying an identical amount of money and texting each other

[CarpathianForest]

The Tweet she followed this up with makes it even better:

Sherry Ross ‏@SherryDarlingNJ

That Halloween idea works best if you go out with someone in a Suter jersey carrying an identical amount of money and texting each other

Gay porn with two guys wearing Parise and Suter jerseys?

Is that too much?