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[lucifer91]

Did you ask?

Yeah, I talked to him last night. He said that he got 6 last year and wouldn't take any less per year because he is used to 6 mill income now and doesn't think he is worth less than that. He said also with starting a family that he wouldn't want to take a pay cut.

[Daniel]

well thats taking in account bad contracts, but you gotta look at guys with similar skills set and smaller cap hit like datyuk, mike richards etc etc

There's a saying in the NFL, you're only as smart as the dumbest GM in the league. Whether someone else got a "bad" contract is irrelevant.

[Daniel]

Nah, this changes nothing. Crosby's cap hit is the same. Doesn't affect Parise's market price.

Whatever his cap hit is affects what the Pens can spend on other free agents, for better or worse.

What the best player in the league gets, tends to affect what other players get.

[Martyisth3b3st]

Yeah, I talked to him last night. He said that he got 6 last year and wouldn't take any less per year because he is used to 6 mill income now and doesn't think he is worth less than that. He said also with starting a family that he wouldn't want to take a pay cut.

The traumas of starting a married life with a $6 million income for one year before it gets raised to 9. How would he survive?

[Triumph]

I think he means it's significant because it gives a better estimation of the money the Pens have to add a guy like Parise or Weber

But it doesn't. Sid's cap hit was already $8.7M. The idea that he was coming in lower than his cap hit was absurd. So he's coming in at the same or slightly higher. Changes nothing.

[lucifer91]

The traumas of starting a married life with a $6 million income for one year before it gets raised to 9. How would he survive?

Yeah I don't know. I told him to live a day in my shoes with my 5 figure salary.

[NJDevs4978]

It does make sense he wouldn't want to take a paycut at 'this' point in his career, though ironically I think Kovy did since he was making slightly north of $6 million in Atlanta then got $6 million even the first couple years of his deal. Zach can do the same thing and not take a paycut, at least until later in his career when he'd just about have to take a cut anyway.

6-6-11-11-11-7.5-5-2.5

8-60...that's I think your best-case scenario.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 28 June 2012 - 10:56 AM.

[lucifer91]

The traumas of starting a married life with a $6 million income for one year before it gets raised to 9. How would he survive?

Look, all I was saying 'in my opinion' there is no way Parise would take 4 mil in real money after he made 6 this year. 6M this year can be seen as reasonable, but i'd eat my shoe if he took 4M in real money this year. Its just my opinion though.

[devilsfan26]

Look, all I was saying 'in my opinion' there is no way Parise would take 4 mil in real money after he made 6 this year. 6M this year can be seen as reasonable, but i'd eat my shoe if he took 4M in real money this year. Its just my opinion though.

Yeah I agree. Between 4 million and 6 million you're still obviously very wealthy but it would still be a 33% pay cut.

[SterioDesign]

while i know that Parise will "likely" got go to july 1st... i like how reporters just IGNORE the possibility of him resigning before that even if both the team and Zach said they'd like to get a deal done before that.

per Russo from the Wild

"The Wild's contract offer to Parise on Sunday will be, let's just say, absolutely colossal."

its no big deal really but during the whole article he's absolutely ignoring any chance of NJ to re-sign him eventhough thats what both sides are saying.

http://www.startribu.../160694815.html

[NJDevs4978]

I love how there's not even a peep about Suter in the media for fear of tampering, but everyone can't wait to comment on Zach.

[SterioDesign]

I love how there's not even a peep about Suter in the media for fear of tampering, but everyone can't wait to comment on Zach.

i'd be shocked if there's not "at least" investigations going on about it...

the wild found a way to let it CLEARLY known about how long they are willing to give him and roughly how much and that it would be a colossal offer bigger than what any team could give.

then its been reported that Crosby has been trying to lure Zach in Pittsburgh

in other cases you have Toews trying to lure Doan in Chicago...

i don't get how this is not tampering eventhough its not technically dealing with the client... but in my opinion... getting your playings to talk DIRECTLY to a guy to lure him or get numbers out by the media is way more tampering than Wilson saying they'd be interested to the Sedins in a press conference...

ridiculous

[Daniel]

I love how there's not even a peep about Suter in the media for fear of tampering, but everyone can't wait to comment on Zach.

All of the arguable tampering is coming from one place . . . Minnesota. There's no league-wide chatter on what other teams will offer Parise. The Penguins have come the closest, but did not cross the line like Minnesota did, at least in my mind -- a former team executive who still has close ties to the team stating publicly that it won't get outbid.

[Daniel]

i'd be shocked if there's not "at least" investigations going on about it...

the wild found a way to let it CLEARLY known about how long they are willing to give him and roughly how much and that it would be a colossal offer bigger than what any team could give.

then its been reported that Crosby has been trying to lure Zach in Pittsburgh

in other cases you have Toews trying to lure Doan in Chicago...

i don't get how this is not tampering eventhough its not technically dealing with the client... but in my opinion... getting your playings to talk DIRECTLY to a guy to lure him or get numbers out by the media is way more tampering than Wilson saying they'd be interested to the Sedins in a press conference...

ridiculous

You only have rumors of players giving UFAs to be sales pitches. In the Wild's case, the tampering, or at least the evidence of tampering, is indisputable.

[MadDog2020]

You only have rumors of players giving UFAs to be sales pitches. In the Wild's case, the tampering, or at least the evidence of tampering, is indisputable.

Regardless of what happens with Parise, I want Lou all over this. I hope he's already filed the paperwork.

[SMantzas]

Regardless of what happens with Parise, I want Lou all over this. I hope he's already filed the paperwork.

Agreed. A first round pick would be nice for obvious reasons

[Triumph]

What paperwork would he file? You people do realize it took the Devils ages to get the league to confirm that Stevens was tampered with, right? And that's because Stevens WANTED to go back to St. Louis. We don't even have any idea what Zach actually wants to do. This isn't tampering.

[devilsadvoc8]

Agreed. A first round pick would be nice for obvious reasons

HA! The league would never give that. Never.

Even though I would want it.

[SterioDesign]

What paperwork would he file? You people do realize it took the Devils ages to get the league to confirm that Stevens was tampered with, right? And that's because Stevens WANTED to go back to St. Louis. We don't even have any idea what Zach actually wants to do. This isn't tampering.

The other way around you do realize that Toronto got a fine for tampering cause Wilson said "You're hearing right now — and this sounds very contradictory — but there is a real possibility I would think that we would be going after the Sedins. Let's just speculate there" on the radio.

[Devils Pride 26]

But it doesn't. Sid's cap hit was already $8.7M. The idea that he was coming in lower than his cap hit was absurd. So he's coming in at the same or slightly higher. Changes nothing.

On the other hand, with the cap going up Crosby's % of the cap space he eats up lowers slightly. Obviously, this could be different when the new CBA comes out.