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#21 thelastonealive

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:50 PM

It's official according to TG. Deadline's passed, we're keeping the pick.

All the more reason to finish the job and win the Cup in the next two years.

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Deadline has passed, Devils have not notified NHL they are giving up 2012 1st rd pick. So, they're not giving it up this year.


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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:54 PM

I wrote an article looking at whether the Devils would keep their pick, and I came away thinking they very well might keep it:

http://nhlnumbers.co...-kovalchuk-pick

The difference between 15 and 30 just isn't as great as you might think.


Good argument. I'd be curious looking at more than that one number for NHL success, but that all makes sense. In my mind I'm thinking of just the anecdotal evidence of 30 = Corrente 17 = Parise, and not considering the larger picture.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:56 PM

Heh, the signature is from during a particularly rough stretch for Kovy I think. I'm happy with the contract for now but I have decided to keep it since I still think the jury is out.



C'mon man...

Keeping that in your signature makes you Manta Jr...it's obvious the naysayers and Kovy Hate Club members were proved wrong...

The man is an absolute beast, and he will likely be in a Devils jersey for another 10 years or so....
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:00 PM

I wrote an article looking at whether the Devils would keep their pick, and I came away thinking they very well might keep it:

http://nhlnumbers.co...-kovalchuk-pick

The difference between 15 and 30 just isn't as great as you might think.



I agree....

We have picked gems late/later than this and will hopefully find another Conte Special...also makes me believe they have a couple in mind going into it
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:14 PM

Or it could be Adrian Foster.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:15 PM

Here are the Devils picks by round and overall this year:

1 (29)
2 (60)
3 (90)
4 (96) - via Toronto (Steckel)
5 (135) - via Calgary (Leblond)
5 (150)
6 (180)
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:16 PM

I don't like this move but I hope to be proven wrong.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:19 PM

sorry - i just hate this move. but i've been wrong before.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:25 PM

Who knows? We've got some players we can move. Move the pick plus a player for a higher pick.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:26 PM

sorry - i just hate this move. but i've been wrong before.


There is a thread for that.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:30 PM

I hate to say it, the only rational reason for not doing it now is Lou doesn't care about two years down the road. We have to win at least two rounds to make it worth it and next year we're out a third as well, so even the same pick would be more costly.

Plus the front office can capitalize on the playoff run and keep the buzz with a draft party lol.

I agree....

We have picked gems late/later than this and will hopefully find another Conte Special...also makes me believe they have a couple in mind going into it


There are potential late first round gems every year, that rationale does nothing for me.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:41 PM

a 1st round pick typically doesn't have an impact for 4-5 years, so 'Lou doesn't care about the future' as a narrative doesn't make any sense - whether he gives up the pick or keeps it, odds are if he ends up taking a player with it, that player will not make the NHL with Lou as GM.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:41 PM

To me this is a good sign. Maybe i'm looking into it too much, but it just seemed so obvious that they should forfeit the pick this year and Lou kept it. I feel like this means there is either some steal in the draft or that Lou is going to use it for some kind or trade at the draft. I can dream that its a trade for Suter's rights and then both Suter and Zach sign here :cheers:
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:43 PM

I wrote an article looking at whether the Devils would keep their pick, and I came away thinking they very well might keep it:

http://nhlnumbers.co...-kovalchuk-pick

The difference between 15 and 30 just isn't as great as you might think.

Great article Tri; you brought up a bunch of really good points.

I doubt it, but is there any chance we're keeping this pick to use in a pre-draft trade?
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:44 PM

I think Lou expects to eventually have the penalty lifted as part of the new CBA. Its almost as if the NHL needed to come down hard on the Devils as a deterrent until they could completely close the loophole in the labor negotiations at which point they would give them the 1st rounder back. Otherwise, it makes no sense especially with next years draft expected to be deeper.

Edit: I guess another possibility is that they already have the framework of a trade in place that includes the pick. Lindback, Bernier???

Edited by Lateralous, 12 June 2012 - 08:52 PM.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:46 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Lou uses the 1st as a piece to move for a big player. After seeing us just fall short in the Cup Finals I think Lou feels that if he adds just one more big player to this roster we can be the 2012-13 Cup Champs. In Lou We Trust :cheers:

Edited by parisebrandon1994, 12 June 2012 - 08:47 PM.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:49 PM

Let's cut the guy some slack, he's made some good moves before. Chances are, he knows a lot more than we do.

At least there'll be a draft party next week :)
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:52 PM

Let's cut the guy some slack, he's made some good moves before. Chances are, he knows a lot more than we do.

At least there'll be a draft party next week :)


With 29th(?) pick, it will be the longest draft party ever!!!

Also, this thread should be renamed "Devils leaned towards keeping pick" lolz
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:53 PM

Let's cut the guy some slack, he's made some good moves before. Chances are, he knows a lot more than we do.

At least there'll be a draft party next week :)


Holy CRAP, next week.

I'm so used to the draft, the awards, and free agency being almost two months after our season ends. I can't wrap my head around the fact that it's mid-June. That's AWESOME.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:56 PM

Holy CRAP, next week.

I'm so used to the draft, the awards, and free agency being almost two months after our season ends. I can't wrap my head around the fact that it's mid-June. That's AWESOME.

Holy shot yea.. This offseason is definitely gonna keep us entertained
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