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#41 Daniel

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:57 PM

Holy shot yea.. This offseason is definitely gonna keep us entertained


I'd rather get a deal done with Zach and let the rest of the summer be very boring.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:04 PM

I think Lou expects to eventually have the penalty lifted as part of the new CBA.

Edit: I guess another possibility is that they already have the framework of a trade in place that includes the pick. Lindback, Bernier???


there is absolutely no way that this penalty gets wiped away. none. your edit is the only thing that makes any sense to me that lou is trading it for a player.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:16 PM

Who for Steve Mason?

Edit: I have a feeling Mason will come here. What is value is? Who knows.

Edit #2. I say this because I'm not sure what our goaltending options are...and here's a kid who has had success in this league with his talent, behind a sh!tty team, sh!tty environment with horrid coaching. He could be a reclamation project. After all he did have Peter DeBoer in Kitchener for a few games. HIs value is low because of his prior injuries too. Also, I'd be in favor of this kid with a guy like Marty and him splitting time and mentoring him. It's the only way I would accept Marty back.

Edited by HellOnICE, 12 June 2012 - 09:34 PM.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:27 PM

i remember people saying the same thing last year about the draft class being weak and at that time saying this years was much deeper....i think the business about this years draft being weak is more in the front end as in no sidney crosby...imo

that being said i am surprised...its potentially a serious risk by lou..lest i remind everyone about our finish only last season and we're running out of 1st rd choices to give up and if it came down to a top 10 vs the 29th would it be a little different
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:30 PM

1st and who else for Steve Mason.

Edit: I have a feeling Mason will come here. What is value is? Who knows.

Edit #2. I say this because I'm not sure what our goaltending options are...and here's a kid who has had success in this league with his talent, behind a sh!tty team, sh!tty environment with horrid coaching. He could be a reclamation project. After all he did have Peter DeBoer in Kitchener and they won together. Also, I'd be in favor of this kid with a guy like Marty and him splitting time and mentoring him. It's the only way I would accept Marty back.



I like the Mason idea....

I think Marty should come back and play 55 games next year....
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:34 PM

1st and who else for Steve Mason.

Edit: I have a feeling Mason will come here. What is value is? Who knows.

Edit #2. I say this because I'm not sure what our goaltending options are...and here's a kid who has had success in this league with his talent, behind a sh!tty team, sh!tty environment with horrid coaching. He could be a reclamation project. After all he did have Peter DeBoer in Kitchener and they won together. Also, I'd be in favor of this kid with a guy like Marty and him splitting time and mentoring him. It's the only way I would accept Marty back.


With his contract, I think we could have Mason for a low round pick but I'm not sure he's even worth it. That would be quite a reclamation project.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:42 PM

I think Lou wants to trade for someone else's first round pick before forfeiting his own.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:56 PM

Who for Steve Mason?

Edit: I have a feeling Mason will come here. What is value is? Who knows.

Edit #2. I say this because I'm not sure what our goaltending options are...and here's a kid who has had success in this league with his talent, behind a sh!tty team, sh!tty environment with horrid coaching. He could be a reclamation project. After all he did have Peter DeBoer in Kitchener for a few games. HIs value is low because of his prior injuries too. Also, I'd be in favor of this kid with a guy like Marty and him splitting time and mentoring him. It's the only way I would accept Marty back.


Mason's contract is horrible and even if he is traded, which I doubt, because he's just that bad, how could you possibly qualify him as an RFA next year at that price?
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:56 PM

i dont know but i trust lou

(a suter trade would be awesome)
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:00 PM

Speaking of trade, we could just as easily sign Harding to a low deal as a backup. Granted, he sh!t the bed towards the end of the season, but I don't think that's characteristic of him overall. Plus he's younger than Moose.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:17 PM

trade it to nashville with tedenby, urbom and another draftpick for rights to radulov and lindback and halischuk.

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Zach Parise ($7.000m) / Travis Zajac ($3.888m) / Alexander Radulov ($4.000m)
Adam Henrique ($0.854m) / Patrik Elias ($6.000m) / Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.667m)
Dainius Zubrus ($3.400m) / Jacob Josefson ($0.900m) / David Clarkson ($2.667m)
Ryan Carter ($0.800m) / Stephen Gionta ($0.750m) / Matt Halischuk ($0.713m)
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“They’re the ones that makes it happen,” Lemaire said. “It’s not us. It’s not me. It’s not the other guy. It’s not the guy before. It’s not the guy after. It’s them. And they have to take care of business.”
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:43 PM

trade it to nashville with tedenby, urbom and another draftpick for rights to radulov and lindback and halischuk.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($7.000m) / Travis Zajac ($3.888m) / Alexander Radulov ($4.000m)
Adam Henrique ($0.854m) / Patrik Elias ($6.000m) / Ilya Kovalchuk ($6.667m)
Dainius Zubrus ($3.400m) / Jacob Josefson ($0.900m) / David Clarkson ($2.667m)
Ryan Carter ($0.800m) / Stephen Gionta ($0.750m) / Matt Halischuk ($0.713m)
Eric Boulton ($0.663m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Henrik Tallinder ($3.375m) / Marek Zidlicky ($4.000m)
Andy Greene ($3.000m) / Mark Fayne ($2.850m)
Anton Volchenkov ($4.250m) / Adam Larsson ($0.925m)
Peter Harrold ($0.750m) /
GOALTENDERS
Martin Brodeur ($3.500m)
Anders Lindback ($2.000m)
BUYOUTS
Colin White ($1.000m) / Trent Hunter ($0.667m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,616,666; BONUSES: $262,500
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $5,683,334



No way Nashville gives over Halischuk.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:50 PM

No way Nashville gives over Halischuk.


oh, you think halischuk is too much?! it was more of a joke than anything. i would give up most of the same for lindback/rads rights. i wouldn't be upset if instead of halischuk in that spot, the devils signed zenon kenopka to a similar deal.

Edited by sundstrom, 12 June 2012 - 10:52 PM.

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“They’re the ones that makes it happen,” Lemaire said. “It’s not us. It’s not me. It’s not the other guy. It’s not the guy before. It’s not the guy after. It’s them. And they have to take care of business.”
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 11:16 PM

oh, you think halischuk is too much?! it was more of a joke than anything. i would give up most of the same for lindback/rads rights. i wouldn't be upset if instead of halischuk in that spot, the devils signed zenon kenopka to a similar deal.

I wouldn't mind Kenopka. Dude can actually win face-offs.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 11:37 PM

i don't care if they think there's a great player there. you simply cannot gamble with this. i wanted them to deal the pick even if they lost in the first round to florida.

while i think the odds are very far against this scenario, imagine parise leaves, the devils do not get any forward to replace him, injury or ineffectiveness limit kovy, elias, zajac and henrique and marty repeats his first half of this season for the entire season. that's a bad team and could lead to a top 10 pick. then they're forced to give up 13/14 with no clue how it will turn out.



Otoh, in that scenario wouldn't the Devs be able to parlay their equally high 2nd rounder up to a very low first and give that to the league? Doesn't that fulfill our obligations as well?
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 11:41 PM

AFAIK the pick must be a "natural" first round pick for the Devils. It can't be a pick obtained from another team.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 11:55 PM

AFAIK the pick must be a "natural" first round pick for the Devils. It can't be a pick obtained from another team.


this is correct.
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“They’re the ones that makes it happen,” Lemaire said. “It’s not us. It’s not me. It’s not the other guy. It’s not the guy before. It’s not the guy after. It’s them. And they have to take care of business.”
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 12:06 AM

I think its one of those two:

They like a kid that is flying under the radar and think they can get him with the 29th pick

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They like a kid that is suspected to be drafter earlier (than 29th) and will try to move up for him and they needed to keep that pick for a possible trade.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:10 AM

I am both perplexed and understanding as to why they're keeping the pick.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:24 AM

Watch us not only keep our pick in the 1st round this year, but as we approach the end of the first round of the draft and after much waiting, trade out of the first round into the second.........
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