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#241 ghdi

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:43 AM

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:45 AM

Glad to see someone finally took Jarrod Maidens. Guy has first round skill, fell to the third with injury concerns. Could be a steal. I was really hoping he'd be a Devil.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 10:53 AM

glad we got our RW wing need covered in this draft

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:07 AM

Still waiting or Lou to make this move...
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:25 AM

I'm generally not the "we don't get enough attention" kind of guy, but the incessant Penguins ass-kissing is nauseating, even to me. Hopefully it's just a product of the draft being in Pitt, but I doubt that.

Look folks, Mario and Shero are not these huge geniuses. Their core is entirely the product of being a godawful team for a long stretch of time. Let's not talk about the awful move of using the number 1 pick in the best draft in 20 years on a goalie (although if you believe in the butterfly effect, maybe they don't get Crosby). Going after Suter or Parise is about as obvious a move as the Yankees signing CC Sabathia.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:31 AM

I'm generally not the "we don't get enough attention" kind of guy, but the incessant Penguins ass-kissing is nauseating, even to me. Hopefully it's just a product of the draft being in Pitt, but I doubt that.

Look folks, Mario and Shero are not these huge geniuses. Their core is entirely the product of being a godawful team for a long stretch of time. Let's not talk about the awful move of using the number 1 pick in the best draft in 20 years on a goalie (although if you believe in the butterfly effect, maybe they don't get Crosby). Going after Suter or Parise is about as obvious a move as the Yankees signing CC Sabathia.

I really can't take the hockey media. I really can't. It's been an absolute infomercial for the Penguins.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:36 AM

I really can't take the hockey media. I really can't. It's been an absolute infomercial for the Penguins.

It's fvckin unbearable.

Like hey why don't you guys focus on teams that didn't get abused and embarrassed in the playoffs

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:42 AM

I'm generally not the "we don't get enough attention" kind of guy, but the incessant Penguins ass-kissing is nauseating, even to me. Hopefully it's just a product of the draft being in Pitt, but I doubt that.


We'll find out next year :lol:
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:43 AM

I really can't take the hockey media. I really can't. It's been an absolute infomercial for the Penguins.


just be patient! the draft will be in NJ next year so it means its gonna be our turn and we'll get all the focus to ourselves right!?!...................... right?
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:47 AM

Glad Nick Ebert got drafted, even if it was last overall. He's a Jersey kid and I'm surprised he fell to the point of almost not getting drafted.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:56 AM

One other thing I'll add, wouldn't it have been cool if the when the broadcast replayed Mario getting drafted that it be followed by the mentioning of the FACT that the Penguins intentionally lost games to have the worst record in the league that year. I can dream can't I.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:09 PM

They are sucking Ray Shero off like he just cured cancer. And they won't stop with the Parise sh!t. fvck this, on mute it goes.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 01:57 PM

One other thing I'll add, wouldn't it have been cool if the when the broadcast replayed Mario getting drafted that it be followed by the mentioning of the FACT that the Penguins intentionally lost games to have the worst record in the league that year. I can dream can't I.


isnt it weird that they never showed any clips of Lemieux getting drafted and putting the Pens jersey and all.... ?

oh wait... they can't cause he refused to put the jersey on !!!
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 02:23 PM

isnt it weird that they never showed any clips of Lemieux getting drafted and putting the Pens jersey and all.... ?

oh wait... they can't cause he refused to put the jersey on !!!


You might be thinking of lindros.

EDIT: Just checked. You're right.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 02:32 PM

Caps made out better than the Pens in my book. They get a solid center in Ribeiro and they also picked up Forsberg and Wilson.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 02:33 PM

Finally home and catching up. Some quick thoughts...

Montreal made out well getting Galchenyuk and Collberg with their first 2 picks.

I like what Buffalo did with their first 3 selections. Risk/Reward pick in Grigorenko who fell to them, solid prospect in Girgensons, and a quality defenseman in Jake McCabe.

Really surprised to see Anthony Stolarz from Jackson, NJ drafted 45th overall from the Flyers. His stock really skyrocketed this year.

Frk seems like a typical Detroit move, watch him stay healthy and put it all together now.

Interesting that Daniil Zharkov fell all the way to the last pick of the 3rd round.

I'll post more on the Devils draft picks but they certaintly added forward depth to the organization.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 04:14 PM

i wish Lou would put Tedenby in the lineup to start the season hoping he does well and so we can trade him for some value.

I really like Tedenby but he's just not fitting with Deboer's "repetitive dump and chase and working along the boards until we puck make his way to the point in hope to get a deflection in front" system is good for him, Tedenby would be a good fit with a team who actually try to make plays in the o-zone like vancouver or Chicago.

Cause i just can't see Teddy cracking the lineup ever and sticking around with our system now. He's actually super fast so he can get to the puck in zone and he's good around the board for his size surprisingly but he couldnt handle the constant pounding in the playoffs. Hes too easy to knock off the puck
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 04:50 PM

its quite clear from Conte's interview with TG that if either of the goalies were there, the Devils would have taken either before Matteau. They're happy with him it would appear but the idea that they weren't taken a goalie was clearly wrong.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:15 PM

i wish Lou would put Tedenby in the lineup to start the season hoping he does well and so we can trade him for some value.

I really like Tedenby but he's just not fitting with Deboer's "repetitive dump and chase and working along the boards until we puck make his way to the point in hope to get a deflection in front" system is good for him, Tedenby would be a good fit with a team who actually try to make plays in the o-zone like vancouver or Chicago.

Cause i just can't see Teddy cracking the lineup ever and sticking around with our system now. He's actually super fast so he can get to the puck in zone and he's good around the board for his size surprisingly but he couldnt handle the constant pounding in the playoffs. Hes too easy to knock off the puck


Tedenby doesn't fit with anything right now because he is not very good. He's also not super fast, which to me is his biggest knock. He didn't seem to generate very much with his speed this year - it's not like he's some Zharkov sort of player, getting breakaways and not cashing in - he was getting nothing.

And even if he did do well, he's not being traded for 'some value', nor is 'some value' better than the possibility that Tedenby does turn into a good player.

its quite clear from Conte's interview with TG that if either of the goalies were there, the Devils would have taken either before Matteau. They're happy with him it would appear but the idea that they weren't taken a goalie was clearly wrong.


I don't think that's totally clear - I think were Matteau not there and one of the goalies was there, they definitely would've taken one of them. It's less clear what happens if Matteau is there and so is one of the goalies.
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Posted 23 June 2012 - 07:40 PM

I don't think that's totally clear - I think were Matteau not there and one of the goalies was there, they definitely would've taken one of them. It's less clear what happens if Matteau is there and so is one of the goalies.


the way it read seemed to me that conte thought about goaltending and liked them both, but they were gone so matteau was the highest on their board. what was also clear is the organizational philosophy of best player available regardless of position in the first round.
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