And of course, hopefully Pat Burns gets voted in.
4 is the max for players. What's everyone's hopes and predictions? For me:
Sakic
Shanahan
Oates
Bure
I think we see Sakic, Shanahan, Oates and Sundin.
Edited by devilsrule33, 26 June 2012 - 02:00 PM.
HHOF Class of 2012 Thread
Started by devilsrule33, Jun 26 2012 09:47 AM
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 09:47 AM
Class of 2012 will be announced at 3PM. Sakic and Shanahan are the obvious locks their first time on the ballot. Sundin and Roenick are eligible for the first time as well, but aren't considered shoo-ins just yet. Other notables include Oates, Bure, Lindros, Housley, Mogilny, and Joseph.
And of course, hopefully Pat Burns gets voted in.
4 is the max for players. What's everyone's hopes and predictions? For me:
Sakic
Shanahan
Oates
Bure
I think we see Sakic, Shanahan, Oates and Sundin.
And of course, hopefully Pat Burns gets voted in.
4 is the max for players. What's everyone's hopes and predictions? For me:
Sakic
Shanahan
Oates
Bure
I think we see Sakic, Shanahan, Oates and Sundin.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 09:59 AM
I think it could only be Oates and Bure. They are far better than any other options on the list.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:12 AM
I don't think Roenick or Sundin are first ballot hall of famers.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:13 AM
Oates, Bure, Burns
EDIT: Did not see Sundin...Vote for Sundin
EDIT: Did not see Sundin...Vote for Sundin
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:18 AM
Sakic and Shanny are no-brainers. I think Sundin and Oates are in as well, and we max out the 4 players. Hope Burnsie gets in too. I'm still irate he didn't get in when he could've been here for it.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:27 AM
I don't think Roenick or Sundin are first ballot hall of famers.
Sundin is a massively underrated player who spent the majority of his career playing in the Dead Puck era. Even losing a year and a half to lockout and playing in that era, he scored 564 goals. Had he played in the 1980s, he would've scored 700. He belongs in first ballot, it will only be the prejudice of the HHOF Selection Committee that would keep him out on the first go around.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:39 AM
I agree with you completely that Sundin should be a first ballot Hall of Famer. He was the model of consistency at an extremely high level.Sundin is a massively underrated player who spent the majority of his career playing in the Dead Puck era. Even losing a year and a half to lockout and playing in that era, he scored 564 goals. Had he played in the 1980s, he would've scored 700. He belongs in first ballot, it will only be the prejudice of the HHOF Selection Committee that would keep him out on the first go around.
But...I would rather see Pavel Bure in the Hall of Fame first. I think he was just the better play with a shorter career. Pavel Bure was playing during the same Dead Puck era and was putting up 60+ goals for many seasons.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:54 AM
Hope Burns gets it so we can arrange a Burns day with the Habs or Leafs.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 10:56 AM
Sundin is a massively underrated player who spent the majority of his career playing in the Dead Puck era. Even losing a year and a half to lockout and playing in that era, he scored 564 goals. Had he played in the 1980s, he would've scored 700. He belongs in first ballot, it will only be the prejudice of the HHOF Selection Committee that would keep him out on the first go around.
All very good points. It's just personally, when I think Mats Sundin I just don't think fist ballet hall of famer.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:54 AM
You should have Devils legend Dave Andreychuk on the list, even though I don't think he deserves it over the others.
His accumlated stats and longevity are eyepopping though
http://www.hockey-re.../andreda01.html
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His accumlated stats and longevity are eyepopping though
http://www.hockey-re.../andreda01.html
Games 1639
Goals 640
Assist 698
Points 1338
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:56 AM
You should have Devils legend Dave Andreychuk on the list, even though I don't think he deserves it over the others.
His accumlated stats and longevity are eyepopping though
http://www.hockey-re.../andreda01.html
Games 1639
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Total mistake there to leave him off. I think he'll get in eventually but hopefully not for a long while.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 11:58 AM
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:57 PM
I kinda hope Oates makes it today, that'd be one ridiculously memorable day between the HOF and getting a coaching gig.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 01:59 PM
Leaked that Oates, Bure, Sundin, and Sakic are your HHOF Class of 2012.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:03 PM
No Shanny?
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:07 PM
No Shanny?
Apparently not. I don't really get Sundin over Shanahan, but if you look at who is on the committee, there is a huge Toronto bias. Both are deserving, but I'd have Shanahan slotted above Sundin.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:12 PM
Absolutely disgusting Burnsy didnt get in.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:16 PM
Apparently not. I don't really get Sundin over Shanahan, but if you look at who is on the committee, there is a huge Toronto bias. Both are deserving, but I'd have Shanahan slotted above Sundin.
I think Sundin was a better player than Shanahan. But I'm kind of amazed that Sundin would be voted in over Shanahan - one of them was born in the wrong country, and it's not Shanahan.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:29 PM
All very good points. It's just personally, when I think Mats Sundin I just don't think fist ballet hall of famer.
I agree, but the guy was scary consistent...excluding his rookie year, final season and the strike-shortened '95 season, in his other 15 seasons in the NHL he had one season where he put up 114 points, a second where he put up 94 points, and finished with 72-85 points in each of the other 13 seasons. In other words, the guy was remarkably steady...I probably wouldn't have put in him in the first ballot, but almost definitely on the second.
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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
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It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.
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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:41 PM
Surprised over Shanny not making this cut.
And I'm still waiting for Mike Richter, certainly the most-accomplished (& perhaps best-ever) US-born goalkeeper (World Cup, Stanley Cup, Olympics)
And Sergei Makarov also has a great case, since its the Hokey Hall of Fame and not just the NHL Hall of Fame.
Next year seems like a lock for Nieds & Blake, and possibly Tkachuk will get in too.
And I'm still waiting for Mike Richter, certainly the most-accomplished (& perhaps best-ever) US-born goalkeeper (World Cup, Stanley Cup, Olympics)
And Sergei Makarov also has a great case, since its the Hokey Hall of Fame and not just the NHL Hall of Fame.
Next year seems like a lock for Nieds & Blake, and possibly Tkachuk will get in too.
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