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[justdo3043]

SportsnetSpec

"News that Brodeur will test UFA market tells us NJD doesn't have $$ to sign Zach Parise either. Bryce Salvador may also look elsewhere."


ahhhhh come on now look at all the crappy tweets coming out

yeah i dont think thats the reason we're not signing sal or marty

[Mayday]

SportsnetSpec

"News that Brodeur will test UFA market tells us NJD doesn't have $$ to sign Zach Parise either. Bryce Salvador may also look elsewhere."

ahhhhh come on now look at all the crappy tweets coming out

Thats concerning but thats just speculation. They don't know anything behind the scenes. Lou may be right, Marty is great but he is 40 years old, 5.2M is alot for him at this age.

I'm not worried.

[Devs1965]

Brodeur not a Devil, or not retire as a Devil. Wont happen this team has been his legacy. What is he going to get 1yr 2 yr contract all for$, What teams are going to pay 5+ mil for a 40 yr old goalie.
Or
Is this a sign of the financials of the team or work stopage. to confusing just let it play out

[Daniel]

SportsnetSpec

"News that Brodeur will test UFA market tells us NJD doesn't have $$ to sign Zach Parise either. Bryce Salvador may also look elsewhere."


ahhhhh come on now look at all the crappy tweets coming out

Well it is SportsnetSpec

['7']

1. Marty will not accept being a backup, anywhere

2. What team is going to sign Brodeur to be their starter? And give him 60+ games?

no chance he goes anywhere.

Edited by '7', 29 June 2012 - 10:08 AM.

[Daniel]

1. Marty will not accept being a backup, anywhere

2. What team is going to sign Brodeur to be their starter?

no chance he goes anywhere.

Toronto maybe if they strike out on Luongo. Chicago or San Jose maybe.

[Zubie#8]

1. Marty will not accept being a backup, anywhere

2. What team is going to sign Brodeur to be their starter?

no chance he goes anywhere.

And he needs a good defensive team. Imagine he was on a team like Tampa...my god his numbers would be hard to look at. This is just forcing Lou's hand to sign him to a deal he wants.

Edited by Zubie#8, 29 June 2012 - 10:09 AM.

[SterioDesign]

whats scaring me is that it may be worst than we think behind the scene, i know most of us just pretend its okay and look away but potentially it could be really bad.

if Brodeur want to play another season he'd want to have a chance to win the cup, he's not going to toronto

Edited by SterioDesign, 29 June 2012 - 10:10 AM.

[Triumph]

Toronto maybe if they strike out on Luongo. Chicago or San Jose maybe.

Chicago and San Jose both have starters. They can't afford to pay starter money to Brodeur unless they fob one of those guys off on another team. Toronto sucks and does Marty really want to deal with that nonsense at age 40? That's why this all seems like a giant bluff.

[squishyx]

Honestly just give him 5m, he's earned the right to be a little overpaid. Who are we going to use as a starter that will be any cheaper and any better? Marty had a phenomenal playoffs, he's still got gas in the tank. I don't think now is the time to skimp on his contract.

[SterioDesign]

my friends are ALREADY giving me sh!t for losing Parise and Brodeur on July 1st.... if it somehow really happen... man im gonna jump off a bridge just not to hear those retards

[hargsy]

Marty just wants to see his value....I dont think ANY team will throw crazy money at him, but being this will most likely be his final contract in the NHL, I guess he wants to see just how much he can ask from Lou.

[Triumph]

Honestly just give him 5m, he's earned the right to be a little overpaid. Who are we going to use as a starter that will be any cheaper and any better? Marty had a phenomenal playoffs, he's still got gas in the tank. I don't think now is the time to skimp on his contract.

He's already been overpaid for several years. He's 40. Since 2010, he ranks 40th out of 44 goalies in even strength save percentage. There's no guarantee that he will be a .910 SV% goalie next year. And he's got no options. The Devils want to be a good team, they can't afford to be giving legacy contracts.

All that said, if they settle on $3M, which is still an overpay, fine. But $5.2M? No way.

Edited by Triumph, 29 June 2012 - 10:18 AM.

[Zubie#8]

He's already been overpaid for several years. He's 40. Since 2010, he ranks 40th out of 44 goalies in even strength save percentage. There's no guarantee that he will be a .910 SV% goalie next year. And he's got no options. The Devils want to be a good team, they can't afford to be giving legacy contracts.

This.

[Daniel]

He's already been overpaid for several years. He's 40. Since 2010, he ranks 40th out of 44 goalies in even strength save percentage. There's no guarantee that he will be a .910 SV% goalie next year. And he's got no options. The Devils want to be a good team, they can't afford to be giving legacy contracts.

All that said, if they settle on $3M, which is still an overpay, fine. But $5.2M? No way.

Problem is, the vast majority of GMs don't think in those terms. There's a lot of groupthink in the NHL. Maybe that's why those that have tended to avoid it -- Lou and Red Wings management -- have been consistently good over the years.

Even Holmgren, who is a pretty good GM, threw a ton of money at Bryz.

The only other thing I wonder from Marty's view is the fear that the Devils are actually good again next year with another goalie, which will lead even more to question how good he actually is. Pop-psychology most likely.

[squishyx]

He's already been overpaid for several years. He's 40. Since 2010, he ranks 40th out of 44 goalies in even strength save percentage. There's no guarantee that he will be a .910 SV% goalie next year. And he's got no options. The Devils want to be a good team, they can't afford to be giving legacy contracts.

All that said, if they settle on $3M, which is still an overpay, fine. But $5.2M? No way.

We have 27m in cap space to sign Parise and Broduer and a bunch of spare parts. What else are you going to do with it? Yada yada "the owners have Lou under a tighter cap figure" etc etc, there's still plenty of money to give Marty another year at his rate. Marty was also underpaid for a long time and I'd rather reward his loyalty than split hairs over 1-2m and then also have to scramble to solve our new problem: needing a starting goalie, which will prob cost us around 4-5m anyway.

Edited by squishyx, 29 June 2012 - 10:25 AM.

[overtime98]

Its amazing that Lou and the Devils would wait like this with their captain and HOF player...... Did they wait with Crosby? Did the Kings let Quick 'test the waters'? NO....

[Zubie#8]

Its amazing that Lou and the Devils would wait like this with their captain and HOF player...... Did they wait with Crosby? Did the Kings let Quick 'test the waters'? NO....

Brodeur never said he 100% wanted to play next season and the season ended 2 and a half weeks ago and Zach obviously wants to test the market.

Edited by Zubie#8, 29 June 2012 - 10:28 AM.

[Triumph]

Problem is, the vast majority of GMs don't think in those terms. There's a lot of groupthink in the NHL. Maybe that's why those that have tended to avoid it -- Lou and Red Wings management -- have been consistently good over the years.

Even Holmgren, who is a pretty good GM, threw a ton of money at Bryz.

The only other thing I wonder from Marty's view is the fear that the Devils are actually good again next year with another goalie, which will lead even more to question how good he actually is. Pop-psychology most likely.

Bryz was a very good goalie, and I think, still is. I don't think GMs around the league are lining up to sign a 40 year old guy - they saw what happened to Roloson last year, and they've seen to some degree what's been happening with Brodeur. Everyone around the league has gotten a guy they think can start except maybe Toronto. And Toronto's a team in a rebuild.

We have 27m in cap space to sign Parise and Broduer and a bunch of spare parts. What else are you going to do with it? Yada yada "the owners have Lou under a tighter cap figure" etc etc, there's still plenty of money to give Marty another year at his rate. Marty was also underpaid for a long time and I'd rather reward his loyalty than split hairs over 1-2m and then also have to scramble to solve our new problem: needing a starting goalie, which will prob cost us around 4-5m anyway.

Try to actually make a profit instead of throwing away $1M on a sub-average goalie? Brodeur hasn't been 'a starting goalie' for 2 years. He had a great playoffs, but that doesn't leave me fully convinced he won't start out the season horrible (again).

Edited by Triumph, 29 June 2012 - 10:30 AM.

[crashline]

As much as I defend Marty against all other hockey fans, he can take a walk if he's looking for 5 mil. He is the best of all time and by far the biggest face of our organization, but if he's going to be greedy and ask for too much then Lou has to let him go. If its the matter of us losing Parise because of it, then see ya later Marty.