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#21 Devils Pride 26

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:47 AM

This is shades of Pandolfo in 2008, except much worse.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:47 AM

There are no horrendous deals if you're not going to the cap.

I do think it's funny that they're supposed to be desperately broke but are overpaying everyone. Shoalts looks like a fool.


Shoalts is a fool. There are lots of horrendous deals if you are not going to the cap - that is one of the dumber things I've ever heard you say, and you don't say dumb stuff.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:47 AM

There are no horrendous deals if you're not going to the cap.

Thats what I am thinking, the Cap does not matter at all its the actual money this team can spend.

Edited by Zubie#8, 03 July 2012 - 10:47 AM.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:47 AM

Yeah this certainly seems to be a 'reward' type deal, which, as we've seen, has no place in the NHL after the implementation of the salary cap. This is a deal we'll all be hating two years from now when he's either retired or a healthy scratch.

Question for those who might know:

If a player retires, is he owed anything by the team?

The ONLY pro-Lou way of spinning this is that he's hoping Brodeur, Moose, and Salvador retire after this year, so their cap hits stay on yet the team would owe them no money (thus cheaply getting the team to the cap floor next year).

Although I'm sure there are tons of holes in that theory.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:47 AM

Spending 9m on a guy who's a hard hit away from the ER. fvck my ass.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:51 AM

Question for those who might know:

If a player retires, is he owed anything by the team?


No. When someone retires, they forfeit the remaining money on the contract.

However, with the over 35 contract, the team's cap hit remains for the original contract length.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:52 AM

Oh boy...terrible.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:52 AM

Shoalts is a fool. There are lots of horrendous deals if you are not going to the cap - that is one of the dumber things I've ever heard you say, and you don't say dumb stuff.


It doesn't effect you. They have a year to year budget and alot of space coming off next year. The thing that made the Pandolfo deal so fvcking awful was that they were a big spending cap team. Those are the kinds of deals that kill you, because you lose your ability to maneuver, it even makes trading difficult. In this case, who cares, it means 1) either they have their Parise price in the budget or 2) he's not signing here. Anyway they have a defensive logjam and will have to clear someone out because in a world where everyone is healthy, Larsson doesn't even play. I do not believe they intend that to be the case. Right now, he'd be in the A because Harrold has a one-way and you know how much the Devils loathe having one-ways in the minors. Hell, it cost them Stralman last year.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:52 AM

No. When someone retires, they forfeit the remaining money on the contract.

However, with the over 35 contract, the team's cap hit remains for the original contract length.


So, I guess, these three contracts that I mentioned previously could help the Devils financially in the future to reach the cap floor if things get worse financially.

Edited by Devilsfan118, 03 July 2012 - 10:52 AM.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:53 AM

fvcking horrible
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:53 AM

Well, so much for getting back to the Final next season.

effin' crazy !
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:54 AM

I guess this could be considered at best, OKAY if and only if, they find a way to trade Volchenkov. Pretty sure that will not happen either. fvck this
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:54 AM

Very good signing, he is the De Facto leader on Defense and his leadership is finally recognized.

Good job Lou.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:54 AM

It doesn't effect you. They have a year to year budget and alot of space coming off next year. The thing that made the Pandolfo deal so fvcking awful was that they were a big spending cap team. Those are the kinds of deals that kill you, because you lose your ability to maneuver, it even makes trading difficult. In this case, who cares, it means 1) either they have their Parise price in the budget or 2) he's not signing here. Anyway they have a defensive logjam and will have to clear someone out because in a world where everyone is healthy, Larsson doesn't even play. I do not believe they intend that to be the case. Right now, he'd be in the A because Harrold has a one-way and you know how much the Devils loathe having one-ways in the minors. Hell, it cost them Stralman last year.


I'm sorry, but this is all wrong. Salvador was NJ's worst 5 on 5 defenseman last year (besides Kurtis Foster, naturally). The problem is that the Devils are paying a not-good player who is over 35, who was never particularly good to begin with, and they're paying him like he is an average defenseman. He isn't, and he's only going to get worse, and they have lots of D prospects who are going to be blocked by this horrible contract.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:55 AM

The contract we thought some idiot GM would dole out came from....Lou
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:56 AM

He doesn't have a no trade clause...quick trade him Lou!
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:56 AM

Again...I love armchair GM season, let everything play out over the off-season before you judge Lou's work. The man just led us to the SCF...jeez, how soon you all forget.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:56 AM

andystrickland Bryce Salvador didn't request a no-trade clause #Devils
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:57 AM

Again...I love armchair GM season, let everything play out over the off-season before you judge Lou's work. The man just led us to the SCF...jeez, how soon you all forget.

I love Lou. This is an idiotic move. There aren't two ways around it.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:58 AM

At least there isn't a NTC or NMC present in the deal. Should things settle out financially, he could be traded / buried.
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