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#21 Jerzey Devil

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 06:06 PM

I would be willing to bet that if we don't sign a remaining UFA forward or pull off a trade before the season begins, Tedenby will be on the squad come opening day. I dont think any of the other guys you mentioned will be. I also don't see Harrold playing a lot of wing after his defensive performance during the playoffs unless it was an injury situation.


Yeah I think Hoeffel is too young and Whitney is too small. Darcy Zajac might get a chance just to entice Travis to sign a long term deal. But I'm not sure about Tedenby. He was end down to Albany because of his lazy play and he didn't do anything to raise his stock while down there. He might get some playing time during the preseason but I'm not gonna hold my breath that he makes the team.

If we are able to trade any combination of our starting defenders (Tallinder, Greene, Volchenkov) with one of our defensive prospect (Urbom, Burlon, Gelinas) with maybe a 2nd or 3rd or even Tedenby, we might be able to land Gagner or Hemsky from Edmonton. Maybe throw in Omark somehow. I just don't see us landing anything of great value by trade. I'd rather go for Gagner and Omark than Hemsky if possible. Hemsky is too old and fragile for us to be parting with anything significant.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 06:13 PM

Yeah I think Hoeffel is too young and Whitney is too small. Darcy Zajac might get a chance just to entice Travis to sign a long term deal. But I'm not sure about Tedenby. He was end down to Albany because of his lazy play and he didn't do anything to raise his stock while down there. He might get some playing time during the preseason but I'm not gonna hold my breath that he makes the team.

If we are able to trade any combination of our starting defenders (Tallinder, Greene, Volchenkov) with one of our defensive prospect (Urbom, Burlon, Gelinas) with maybe a 2nd or 3rd or even Tedenby, we might be able to land Gagner or Hemsky from Edmonton. Maybe throw in Omark somehow. I just don't see us landing anything of great value by trade. I'd rather go for Gagner and Omark than Hemsky if possible. Hemsky is too old and fragile for us to be parting with anything significant.


Gagner is going to cost too much, but Id also like him. There will be way too much competition if they even put him on the market and I dont think we could compete with many teams to trade for him.

Hemsky we can get for cheap, which is the reason Id be for it. The Oilers will not get much for him because of his contract and they know it + he really needs a new place. Omark's barely been up to a bad Oilers team for a reason and I'm not sold on him, but we probably could get him similarly. Hell, I could see a situation where they package both of those guys to us and it would be a palatable trade back.

I agree about Tedenby, but I also see the Bergfors situation with him. We start the season with him in an effort to showcase him and who knows, he may get a spark lit under his ass and perform to his supposed first round abilities, if not hopefully we can use him as a trade piece. He's also got the most big club experience of any other prospect forward on the team.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 06:29 PM

Gagner is going to cost too much, but Id also like him. There will be way too much competition if they even put him on the market and I dont think we could compete with many teams to trade for him.

Hemsky we can get for cheap, which is the reason Id be for it. The Oilers will not get much for him because of his contract and they know it + he really needs a new place. Omark's barely been up to a bad Oilers team for a reason and I'm not sold on him, but we probably could get him similarly. Hell, I could see a situation where they package both of those guys to us and it would be a palatable trade back.

I agree about Tedenby, but I also see the Bergfors situation with him. We start the season with him in an effort to showcase him and who knows, he may get a spark lit under his ass and perform to his supposed first round abilities, if not hopefully we can use him as a trade piece. He's also got the most big club experience of any other prospect forward on the team.


I actually didn't realize Hemsky is only 28. I thought he was in his mid 30's. I'm warming up to the idea of Hemsky even though he is very injury prone.

As for Omark, he's just like Tedenby but in an Oilers jersey. Maybe a change of environment would be good for both of them.

Tallinder, Tedenby, Urbom, 2nd

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Hemsky, Omark
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 07:39 PM

Anyone think the Oil will trade Gagner for defensemen since they desperately need them?

Greene, Urbom, 2nd for Gagner?
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:40 PM

I say trade for Bobby Ryan. He has almost the same stats , he's younger and cheaper. Trade a prospect and a draft pick and the hole is filled plus he's from jersey

Edited by nmm90392, 04 July 2012 - 09:41 PM.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:41 PM

here's my plan B:

sign zajac to an extension of 6/36
sign semin to 5/32
trade greene/tedenby/2nd to edmonton for paajarvi

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Edited by sundstrom, 04 July 2012 - 09:46 PM.

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#27 nmm90392

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:41 PM

And he's from jersey
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 09:45 PM

And he's from jersey


He's from Cherry Hill and grew up a Flyers fan.

We do not have the assets for Bobby Ryan unless you want to give up Henrique. Anaheim is adamant about getting a center back. It would take Henrique - Gelinas - 3rd Round pick just to get Anaheim to listen. If the price drops, maybe they'd take Josefson, but we're not getting Bobby Ryan here without one of useful young guys that are already on the team.

Edited by ghdi, 04 July 2012 - 09:48 PM.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:07 PM

Tallinder, Tedenby, Urbom, 2nd

for

Hemsky, Omark


No on Hemsky. He only manages an average of half a season.

Semin or try finding some trading partners.

I doubt Gagner would be considered in a trade for Edmonton.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:15 PM

here's my plan B:

sign zajac to an extension of 6/36
sign semin to 5/32
trade greene/tedenby/2nd to edmonton for paajarvi

kovalchuk-zajac-semin
henrique-elias-zubrus
paajarvi-josefson-clarkson
carter-gionta-bernier

talliner-zidlicky
fayne-larsson
volchenkov-salvador

Yes please.

After seeing all of this play out, I'm afraid there is no way Zajac does re-sign prior to free agency. Seeing what Zach got and playing a more valuable position, what is in it for Zajac to re-sign now? I could see insurance of potentially getting hurt or something.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:19 PM

I get the feeling Lou's Plan B is going to be to sit tight for a while and see who becomes available during the season or at the deadline. If the Devils get off to a dreadful start maybe that speeds things up, but I get the feeling Plan B isn't going to involve anything significant...not immediately, anyway.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:22 PM

I get the feeling Lou's Plan B is going to be to sit tight for a while and see who becomes available during the season or at the deadline. If the Devils get off to a dreadful start maybe that speeds things up, but I get the feeling Plan B isn't going to involve anything significant...not immediately, anyway.


Exactly how I feel. I think we re-sign Sykora, Tedenby is on the team from day one, and we ride till we die. I wouldnt be surprised to see someone brought in, but throw a dart at the UFA list and see where it hits.

I'd be be more stunned if we signed Semin or traded for a big name (Ryan/Nash) than I would be when we got Kovalchuk for that crap we tossed Atlanta.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:23 PM

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:28 PM

I get the feeling Lou's Plan B is going to be to sit tight for a while and see who becomes available during the season or at the deadline. If the Devils get off to a dreadful start maybe that speeds things up, but I get the feeling Plan B isn't going to involve anything significant...not immediately, anyway.


I sadly agree. Based on Lou's track record of signings after big name losses it's pretty evident he'll little or pretty much nothing.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:32 PM

I sadly agree. Based on Lou's track record of signings after big name losses it's pretty evident he'll little or pretty much nothing.

I think Lou will make a big move because DeBoer is adamant about having 4 competitive lines.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:39 PM

I want a mystery player
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:43 PM

I want a mystery player



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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:48 PM

I get the feeling Lou's Plan B is going to be to sit tight for a while and see who becomes available during the season or at the deadline. If the Devils get off to a dreadful start maybe that speeds things up, but I get the feeling Plan B isn't going to involve anything significant...not immediately, anyway.


i don't see this. the devils have 8 d under contract. one is going to be moved and right now, you have a bunch of teams looking for defensemen and really, only bouwmeester out there. a guy like andy greene is an EXCELLENT piece to get. this is a guy who was on the top pairing of a team that went to the SCF and is making less than $4MM.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 10:49 PM

He's from Cherry Hill and grew up a Flyers fan.

We do not have the assets for Bobby Ryan unless you want to give up Henrique. Anaheim is adamant about getting a center back. It would take Henrique - Gelinas - 3rd Round pick just to get Anaheim to listen. If the price drops, maybe they'd take Josefson, but we're not getting Bobby Ryan here without one of useful young guys that are already on the team.


I would give up Josefson for him
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 11:01 PM

Again, re: Bobby Ryan- you have him for 3 years (correct me if I'm wrong) before he bolts to the Phailures, which is what he'll do about 5 seconds after his contract expires. Giving up valuable assets for this clown would be incredibly stupid. I want no part of him.
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