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#21 Colorado Rockies 1976

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:06 AM

I'd shop Clarkson and Greene together. I love Clarkson but his stock is at an all time high scoring 30 this year. He literally got every single break to go his way. His next contract is going to be huge. Greene has a decent contract and is a top four defensemen.

Maybe the both of them for Bobby Ryan. Like others have said, I think it's going to be an off the radar move.

And every GM knows that about Clarkson...they probably think he's a bit of a fluke, so his stock probably isn't as high as one might suspect. And he's a pending UFA to boot. Devils are probably better off hanging onto him.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:07 AM

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:07 AM

Every GM in the league loves Clarkson.

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#24 Triumph

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:07 AM

Clarkson has no significant value. He's UFA in a year. Would someone trade a 1st round pick for him? Sure. But he's not going to get NJ a long-term solution to anything.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:09 AM

Clarkson has no significant value. He's UFA in a year. Would someone trade a 1st round pick for him? Sure. But he's not going to get NJ a long-term solution to anything.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:11 AM

fvck it....get Semin.

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#27 Triumph

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:13 AM

Brian Gionta

I mean, maybe? Montreal has these D: Subban, Markov, Kaberle, Emelin, Gorges, Boullion, Y. Weber, plus assorted stragglers. Weber was horrible last year. Boullion is bad - I wouldn't be surprised if at his age and his performance level, he's a 7th D. Andrei Markov finished out the season but I don't know if he can be counted on for anything. So maybe there's a need there.

But at forward, it's a little dicier.

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Prust-Gomez-Leblanc
Moen-Eller-Armstrong

Could they move all those guys up a line after getting rid of Gionta? Maybe. But I don't know if I see it. I think NJ should be interested, though.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:19 AM

Could they move all those guys up a line after getting rid of Gionta? Maybe. But I don't know if I see it. I think NJ should be interested, though.

33 years old and coming off an injury. And it's not like the Devils have had great returns on ex-Devils coming back. Montreal probably wouldn't mind getting his cap hit off their books. I guess the Devils could do worse...he did manage 57 goals in his first 143 GP as a Canadien, for whatever that's worth.

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Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.
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Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:20 AM

There is tons of market for him and I wouldn't be surprised if either Detroit or Pittsburgh signed him.

There is no strong demand for him. Detroit is not going to even bid on him, they are focused on Defense and rightfully so. Pittsburgh? They have to wrap up Malkin long term before getting anyone else. They have the cap space, but I find it hard to believe Balsma would want a loafer on his team.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:22 AM

Clarkson has no significant value. He's UFA in a year. Would someone trade a 1st round pick for him? Sure. But he's not going to get NJ a long-term solution to anything.

Clarkson is the type of player every GM wants. Lou knows what he has and will re-sign him to a longer term deal.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:24 AM

of course you know i am in total agreement dealing an excess d man for a forward. I brought up paajarvi. you had mentioned chris stewart as a possibility. i want wingers of that ilk who can be under team control for at least 3 years.

i do believe that the devils should try to get semin or kostitsyn. semin is much preferred. i'm fine giving him 5/32. i am praying that the group GM think has his value at an all time low and they buy into the fact that he's terrible in the room and on the ice. the more people that mistakenly think he's max afinogenov, the better.

as for 13/14, the devils have 4 key forward UFA's at this point: Zajac, Elias, Zubrus, and Clarkson. I would very much like Lou to extend Zajac as soon as possible as I think he would almost assuredly bolt as a UFA unless he's way overpaid. I expect Elias, Zubrus and Clarkson all to resign and reasonable deals.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:29 AM

What does Brian Gionta have left on his deal, two years? That's not a bad idea. I hope we explore a trade with Montreal.

I'm less enthusiastic about a long-term commitment to Semin.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:35 AM

I will hate having Brian Gionta back...
I have no argument to explain that.. just a gut feeling. Don't wanna him back !

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:42 AM

33 years old and coming off an injury. And it's not like the Devils have had great returns on ex-Devils coming back. Montreal probably wouldn't mind getting his cap hit off their books. I guess the Devils could do worse...he did manage 57 goals in his first 143 GP as a Canadien, for whatever that's worth.

I don't really know what 'bringing back ex-Devils' has to do with it. Yes, he played here. That's not what I'm looking at, he's a winger who could move and whose contract is well-suited to being here.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 11:48 AM

That's not what I'm looking at, he's a winger who could move and whose contract is well-suited to being here.

Exactly. And he's probably not the only player who fits that profile.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:11 PM

I'm feeling Lou will over-pay and bring in Semin... he'll think to himself the Lou/Devils' kool-aid will calm the nerves of enigmatic Russians...

have we seen that before ?
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:22 PM

I don't really know what 'bringing back ex-Devils' has to do with it. Yes, he played here. That's not what I'm looking at, he's a winger who could move and whose contract is well-suited to being here.

Sometimes I just think it's best to move forward and not look to the past. Yes, every player is different, so the lack of success with ex-Devils doesn't necessarily apply, and Gio could come back and be a guy who pops in 25 goals and 50 points or so if he can remain healthy, and the Devils wouldn't be stuck with him for long if it didn't work out. Just doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies, even if it doesn't cost much to get him.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:36 PM

Not that I really want to help the Wild out right now, but their defense is Suter, Gilbert and 4 AHL caliber players. They are also basically at cap so they need to move salary to take on. Tallinder + prospect for Bouchard or Setoguchi?

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:54 PM

Not that I really want to help the Wild out right now, but their defense is Suter, Gilbert and 4 AHL caliber players. They are also basically at cap so they need to move salary to take on. Tallinder + prospect for Bouchard or Setoguchi?

The Wild aren't going anywhere with that Defense (Suter is the new Wade Redden).

Would love either of those guys. I like this.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 12:55 PM

I will hate having Brian Gionta back...
I have no argument to explain that.. just a gut feeling. Don't wanna him back !

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