Bend00rs,I'm just going to deal with one element because I personally think you are coming from an emotional place vis-a-vis this subject and I'm not looking for an argument. However, saying my argument isn't logical is not just wrong in my opinion, it is provably wrong. A basic logic algorithm is as follows:
A follows B
B Follows C
A leads to C as conclusion
Here is how to use this algorithm:
Socrates (a) is a cow (b)
Cows (b) are purple ©
Socrates (a) is purple ©
Now it is important to remember that one can make an argument that is LOGICAL and FACTUALLy wrong. That is why the above is a LOGICAL statement; it is the facts that are wrong. after all, Socrates the philosopher was not a cow and cows aren't purple. This is what is wrong with your statement. All of our arguments are about facts and the interpretations of these facts, but my argument, while possibly wrong on facts and interpretation, is most certainly logical. Here is one element of my argument:
The devils (a) are not spending up to the cap (b)
Not spending up to the cap (b) means a team has an internal cap ©
the Devils (a) have an internal cap ©
Here is the part you specifically called faulty logic:
The devils (a) are trying to resign players in a very specific order (b)
trying to resign players in a very specific order (b) indicates an internal team cap ©
The Devils (a) have an internal team cap ©
These are both logical statements and a logical conclusions. End of story. What isn't clear is if the devils are, in fact, going to spend up to the cap and if they have an internal cap. But these are FACTS.
So the problem with my argument is not that it isn't logical, it is that the facts are not provable. Unfortunately, your argument suffers from the same exact problem, although I am less sure it is a logical argument, I think it is an emotional argument, hence reply.
PS- yes, I am an academic. However, I apologize for the lecture and I apologize doubly if this comes across as condescending because I sincerely do not mean it to.
That's the way Lou always does things. Every year we hear that someone say they are not the priority at the moment. Lou also has to decide who is worth it to bring back; he signed the whole 4th line right away because he knew he wanted them. Sykora is waiting because Lou either doesn't want him or wants to wait and see if he's needed as he says. You're bringing in silly metaphors.
You're playing with faulty logic. You're saying that if they don't have an internal cap then we should just sign everyone we want asap. But that's not how it works ever for any NHL team. Teams try to get the best deals they can for each player. They also wait and see of course how much one player gets before signing another sometimes. AEW, Poni left for 1.8 million dollars, 1.8! We did not lose Poni because we couldn't afford him under "our" cap. At that price we should have signed him under our internal cap. He left for other reasons of which I won't speculate. If we were really that screwed we would have not re-signed Hedberg.
The whole argument falls apart though when it's made clear that we made a "competitive offer" for Zach. Yes Zach left after Poni, but it proves that we have at least at higher cap limit than we're at now and yet we haven't added any - by your logic, whenever there's room to sign, you do it asap - which is wrong. Lou isn't interested in the current stock of FA's/some probably don't want to come to NJ.
As far as Barch goes, low money or not - when a team is as in trouble internally with the cap as you are implying, we would not have signed such an expendable player. Now I am not exactly saying the team has no limit on how much it wants to spend - it might be below the cap, but it's not the reason along with the Marty contract that Poni left. Do you really think if we signed Parise we weren't going to spend any more money at all? Anyways, its all a moot point now anyways because we didn't sign Zach so we must have a good amount of cap room even with an "internal cap" and yet we haven't signed anyone. Again, I think more than anything Lou doesn't believe there are a whole bunch of interesting FA's out there or he's is currently working out a deal/trade with someone.
Edited by AEWHistory, 16 July 2012 - 12:14 PM.