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[NJDevs4978]

Terrible deal, only way it works out is if RFA age goes up.

Terrible deal for who, Fayne? $1.3 million is not terrible for the Devils by any stretch.

[devilsrule33]

Terrible deal for who, Fayne? $1.3 million is not terrible for the Devils by any stretch.

I believe Tri is referring to that he'll be a UFA by the end of this deal. If he signed a 1-year deal, the Devils could buy some UFA years from him next summer.

Edited by devilsrule33, 20 July 2012 - 08:54 PM.

[Triumph]

Terrible deal for who, Fayne? $1.3 million is not terrible for the Devils by any stretch.

Sure it is. As the rules are written now, you have one shot to gouge someone on a contract - right here. The Devils gouged too far - they get a discount for 2 years and then Fayne becomes fairly or overpriced. Granted with the principal owner figuring out how he can afford to remain a season ticket holder again once the NHL takes the team away from him, maybe immediate savings are best, but they had a shot to get him locked up long-term at a great price.

[losdiablos103]

Happy to have him back (although I have him missing an open net in game 1 of the SCF playing over and over in my head). He deserves to get paid more, to be honest, so yes, this is a steal. But nonetheless happy to have him back.

[NJDevs4978]

Sure it is. As the rules are written now, you have one shot to gouge someone on a contract - right here. The Devils gouged too far - they get a discount for 2 years and then Fayne becomes fairly or overpriced. Granted with the principal owner figuring out how he can afford to remain a season ticket holder again once the NHL takes the team away from him, maybe immediate savings are best, but they had a shot to get him locked up long-term at a great price.

I wasn't counting on them signing Fayne to a super-long term deal now, it doesn't behoove him to do so the way it would a Shea Weber since he's not getting a real payday regardless. Maybe the FA age changes anyway in the new CBA. Zajac's the more immediate concern on that front.

Edited by NJDevs4978, 20 July 2012 - 09:15 PM.

[sundstrom]

Terrible deal, only way it works out is if RFA age goes up.

In years but short term dollars is obviously great.

[sundstrom]

Granted with the principal owner figuring out how he can afford to remain a season ticket holder again once the NHL takes the team away from him, maybe immediate savings are best, but they had a shot to get him locked up long-term at a great price.

You are gold with these

[NJDevs4978]

I believe Tri is referring to that he'll be a UFA by the end of this deal. If he signed a 1-year deal, the Devils could buy some UFA years from him next summer.

And if they signed him for four years and $3 million per, and wound up only buying one or no UFA years after the new CBA comes out then there's really no savings. Saying this deal is 'terrible' is a stretch. For all we know Fayne only wanted a two-year deal anyway and was willing to take the short-term hit to get market value in UFA.

[Ollie McKraut]

Fayne factor in effect!

[Triumph]

And if they signed him for four years and $3 million per, and wound up only buying one or no UFA years after the new CBA comes out then there's really no savings. Saying this deal is 'terrible' is a stretch. For all we know Fayne only wanted a two-year deal anyway and was willing to take the short-term hit to get market value in UFA.

Under this deal, he gets $2.6M. You don't think he signs up for 4 years/9M? To beat the deal he just signed versus the deal I just made up, he has to make more than 3.2M per after 2014. I think he'll manage it, but it's close, and that would certainly mitigate some risk on his part.

No way that if this is Fayne's price that buying out his UFA years should cost $4.7M per like you are suggesting.

Edited by Triumph, 20 July 2012 - 09:38 PM.

[SterioDesign]

Faynetastic deal with a Faynomenal cap hit !

[halfsharkalligatorhalfman]

Tri, that's how Lou works. Devils now have Fayne at an absurd contract for 2 years. That has huge value to the team. Trying to buy UFA years and getting cute isn't always better necessarily. Calling this a terrible deal is really overstating your point.

[msweet]

http://blogs.northje...ration_hearing/

Restricted free agent defenseman Mark Fayne signed a two-year, $2.6 million contract with the Devils today to avoid an Aug. 2 salary arbitration hearing.

Fayne, 25, more than doubled his 2011-12 salary of $555,000. He will earn $1.2 million in 2012-13 and $1.4 million in 2013-14.

[thefiestygoat]

I'm happy with this deal. I would've liked to see them buyout some free agency years like triumph pointed out but considering the uncertainty in the league, ownership, and his wrist injury, I am fine with the Devils getting 2 bargain years of Fayne.

[Neb00rs]

2 more years of Major Fayne for 1.3 mill? IDK how anyone can think that is bad - too short term or not.

[DevilNurn]

Great deal (at least in the short term).

[MadDog2020]

Word. The Fayne Train steams on, and economically at that.

[Dadds]

woot. I think this contract, especially after his solid play in the playoffs, is very tradable. While I like Fanye, this team needs more forwards and less d-men and I would not mind seeing him packaged in some sort of deal.

[Marshall]

Steal!

[AEWHistory]

I know Lou always try to sign the players at the cheapest possible prices, but the fact that he dug so much on that deal and signed Fayne at 1.3 per year does that mean that he is leaving as much cap as possible for possibly a couple of big names via FA or trades ?

Or, as I have argued, that we now have an internal cap.

The more I see the more convinced I am that we are operating under short term constraints.

Edited by AEWHistory, 21 July 2012 - 12:50 AM.