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[mort4345]

Under this deal, he gets $2.6M. You don't think he signs up for 4 years/9M? To beat the deal he just signed versus the deal I just made up, he has to make more than 3.2M per after 2014. I think he'll manage it, but it's close, and that would certainly mitigate some risk on his part.

No way that if this is Fayne's price that buying out his UFA years should cost $4.7M per like you are suggesting.

I completely disagree. Yes, I suppose the Devils didn't lock him up "long term" with a 4-year deal, etc. But as of right now we have 8 legitimate NHL defensemen signed for the upcoming season. And although I don't think that Fayne was necessarily the Devils best d-man, it's pretty much a best-case-scenario ... two-year contract dollar-wise. If he has a great year in 2013, the Devils will be able to renegotiate a long-term commitment if they so desire. In short, this gives the Devils flexibility on so many levels and is a steal of a deal as far as I'm concerned.

[Jas0nMacIsaac]

Under this deal, he gets $2.6M. You don't think he signs up for 4 years/9M? To beat the deal he just signed versus the deal I just made up, he has to make more than 3.2M per after 2014. I think he'll manage it, but it's close, and that would certainly mitigate some risk on his part.

No way that if this is Fayne's price that buying out his UFA years should cost $4.7M per like you are suggesting.

I'm not worried about Fayne long term, if he leaves UFA then so be it. We will have gotten incredible value out of him. You can't keep all you assets and maybe there will be compensation for UFA's in the new CBA.

[iamtheprodigy]

Or, you could look on Twitter, and then, without complaining or being rude about it, add said information yourself.

Takes only slightly more work than attacking others.

I looked on Twitter when the thread was posted and didn't see anything about Fayne at that time. I shouldn't have to go searching for someone's source when they post a signing. He's been here long enough to know to include the link for things like this.

[Triumph]

I'm not worried about Fayne long term, if he leaves UFA then so be it. We will have gotten incredible value out of him. You can't keep all you assets and maybe there will be compensation for UFA's in the new CBA.

I doubt there will be compensation and even if there were, what would it be, a 3rd round pick?

Right now Fayne is the second youngest guy on defense - there's 4 guys under contract who I probably want no part of when their deal is done. I get that maybe those won't be UFA years but they'd still be being bought at an excellent price. And if the young guys succeed, Fayne could always be dealt. I guess this is Lou's ' prove it' contract but I wish he'd take a little more risk.

[SMantzas]

Let's say the ufa age increases with the next CBA, would Fayne still be one at the conclusion of this contract?

[Joonas #6]

#NJD D Mark Fayne agrees to two-year deal with Devils worth $2.6M

[Triumph]

Let's say the ufa age increases with the next CBA, would Fayne still be one at the conclusion of this contract?

No. Fayne was born in May of 1987. So any increases in UFA age would keep him from being unrestricted.

[mouse]

I love it for now, especially with the ownership issues, but as Tri has said, I don't like the short term steal when he's one of the guys I'd like to keep long term. Unless Lou is planning on using him as trade bait for a winger (not impossible), I don't love signing a decent quality, young d-man for only 2 years at an amount that borders on insulting. Just makes resigning him that much harder. Not saying resigning Fayne needs to be a priority, especially with guys like Urbom, Burlon, and most importantly Merrill coming up, and Larsson coming of age, but still.

[oconnellrules]

he woulda gotten a lot more if he had buried that puck in the net Gm 1 of the SCF.....sigh

good signing tho.

[Mayday]

He is a good "horse" middle pairing guy. Eats up minutes and is unnoticed but solid. He won't put up 50 or 60 points but he isn't completely "puck retarded" and he won't be a premier #1 shutdown guy but he won't be a liability.

[ATLL765]

He is a good "horse" middle pairing guy. Eats up minutes and is unnoticed but solid. He won't put up 50 or 60 points but he isn't completely "puck retarded" and he won't be a premier #1 shutdown guy but he won't be a liability.

He's very similar to Tallinder in that regard. Very good defensively, but just lacks enough skill and skating ability to be a top flight d-man.

[devlman]

Great deal all around

[devlman]

Under this deal, he gets $2.6M. You don't think he signs up for 4 years/9M? To beat the deal he just signed versus the deal I just made up, he has to make more than 3.2M per after 2014. I think he'll manage it, but it's close, and that would certainly mitigate some risk on his part.

No way that if this is Fayne's price that buying out his UFA years should cost $4.7M per like you are suggesting.

No way his agent allows him to go 4 years/9M.

Edited by devlman, 21 July 2012 - 02:46 PM.

[SterioDesign]

I looked on Twitter when the thread was posted and didn't see anything about Fayne at that time. I shouldn't have to go searching for someone's source when they post a signing. He's been here long enough to know to include the link for things like this.

please don't sue me for the 10 seconds of your time it took you to get the source, i have bills and a family to feed

[ghdi]

I like the deal. I wouldnt be surprised if he was offered longer and turned it down, nor can you blame him. The new CBA is likely going to change a lot of things in respect to RFAs.

I agree that there's guys that Im not going to want to see re-signed once their contracts are played out, but in the immediate it's good money wise. It doesn't hurt we have a good couple of young guys that should be ready by the time Fayne is ready for his next contract.

[iamtheprodigy]

please don't sue me for the 10 seconds of your time it took you to get the source, i have bills and a family to feed

Oh give me a break. Stop playing the victim. Just include the source link next time you post a news story. It's not that hard and it saves everyone time wasted on searching and/or arguing.

[Devils731]

Oh give me a break. Stop playing the victim. Just include the source link next time you post a news story. It's not that hard and it saves everyone time wasted on searching and/or arguing.

And it's the rules too.

[DevilMinder]

I have a nice legal letter in my files that threatened everything I own because people used the info wrong. Please post sources.

[Masked Fan]

I have a nice legal letter in my files that threatened everything I own because people used the info wrong. Please post sources.

link?

Yeah, I figured Lou would get this done for about this much. Well done AGAIN LL! He even paid a little less then what I was thinking.

Edited by Masked Fan, 21 July 2012 - 07:46 PM.

[Z-Man]

I really don't know how anyone can say this is a bad or a terrible contract. Inconceivable. With all the young defensemen in the system, someone will definitely be ready to step in for 2014-2015 if Fayne leaves.