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Poll: Lockout 2012-2013 (Hockey's back!) (130 member(s) have cast votes)

When will we see hockey?

  1. Oct 12 (10 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

  2. Nov 12 (19 votes [14.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.62%

  3. Dec 12 (26 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  4. Jan 13 (33 votes [25.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.38%

  5. Feb 13 (1 votes [0.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.77%

  6. Mar 13 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Apr 13 (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. Oct 13 (14 votes [10.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.77%

  9. Never (27 votes [20.77%])

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#341 DevilMinder

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:44 AM

There is going to be a counter offer no matter what. Then some rhetoric from NHL and a week of silence from both sides.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:57 AM

I can hear Bettman now: "We took what the owners thought were meaningful steps towards a deal, but the players don't want to partake in a constructive negotiation". That's pretty much what you'll hear later in some form or another.


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:16 PM

There is going to be a counter offer no matter what. Then some rhetoric from NHL and a week of silence from both sides.


I don't think there will be silence. I think the drop dead date will lead to lots of talks - whether or not they're meaningful is anyone's guess.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:35 PM

Just reading through Twitter now and it looks like this will not be a good day.

Hope for the best but def expecting the worst.


lol, the meeting hasn't even started yet (it's been pushed back to 2:30). I get being negative for reasons already stated in the prior few posts, but nobody knows how the players will respond until they make their own proposal. McKenzie and company can speculate all they want about what the number of players in the room means, we won't know how it plays out till later today.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:43 PM

lol, the meeting hasn't even started yet (it's been pushed back to 2:30). I get being negative for reasons already stated in the prior few posts, but nobody knows how the players will respond until they make their own proposal. McKenzie and company can speculate all they want about what the number of players in the room means, we won't know how it plays out till later today.

. Yeah Has, but if we've learned anything over the years when it comes to the NHL, it's this: expect the worst, and it expect it to defy common sense and logic. At least, that's what I've learned lol.



Oh and Clarkson's at the meeting. Wonder if he'll fall down walking into the conference room. :P


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:50 PM

Oh and Clarkson's at the meeting. Wonder if he'll fall down walking into the conference room. :P


Maybe he'll come up behind Bettman and try the Clarkaround on him and sign the owner's offer.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:50 PM

lol, the meeting hasn't even started yet (it's been pushed back to 2:30). I get being negative for reasons already stated in the prior few posts, but nobody knows how the players will respond until they make their own proposal. McKenzie and company can speculate all they want about what the number of players in the room means, we won't know how it plays out till later today.


Lol I get what you are saying and you are right. However like maddog said that given the track record of both sides over the years I def believe the negative before I believe any positive.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:53 PM

Maybe he'll come up behind Bettman and try the Clarkaround on him and sign the owner's offer.

. The question is whether he can pull off the Clarkaround before Fehr tries to trip him and he falls on his face. :P


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:58 PM

The question is whether he can pull off the Clarkaround before Fehr tries to trip him and he falls on his face. :P


Probably not. But knowing Clarkie, he will try it 3-5 times during the course of the meeting expecting to make it work.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:59 PM

Probably not. But knowing Clarkie, he will try it 3-5 times during the course of the meeting expecting to make it work.

. One thing you can never knock about the Clarkinator is his effort. :P


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:05 PM

. One thing you can never knock about the Clarkinator is his effort. :P


Clearly, what he lacks in skill he tries to make up in effort. Maybe someone can throw a pen in the corner of the room and, when Fehr goes to pick it up, Clarkson can come in after him, pin him to the wall and hold him up long enough for the other 17 players to sign the deal before Fehr punches him in the ba!!$. Then, Crosby can take all the glory for being the "leader" in the room who ended the lockout, and nobody will remember or recognize the sacrifice Clarkie made to get this deal done. Here's to hoping. :pray:

Edited by Chuck the Duck, 18 October 2012 - 01:06 PM.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:23 PM

. Yeah Has, but if we've learned anything over the years when it comes to the NHL, it's this: expect the worst, and it expect it to defy common sense and logic. At least, that's what I've learned lol.



Oh and Clarkson's at the meeting. Wonder if he'll fall down walking into the conference room. :P


I'm expecting the worst too, just saying there's nothing new to base that on yet, other than well deserved skepticism based on Fehr's history.

The irony about Clarkson is he's probably one of the few sincere guys in the room, Iginla being another. I worry that yahoos like Toews and Jeremy Jacobs might shout down the moderates.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:47 PM

Well I'm optimistic at least. They are far apart in terms of money/escrow. But the other structural issues do not sound like major hurdles. I think a deal within two weeks is a very real possibility.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:56 PM

Mathieu Dandenault: NHLPA offering 4 different proposals, each includes some sort of 50-50 offer.

Edited by Zubie#8, 18 October 2012 - 01:58 PM.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 02:43 PM

Mathieu Dandenault: NHLPA offering 4 different proposals, each includes some sort of 50-50 offer.

. Well, that SOUNDS good... Let's hope for the best.


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 02:54 PM

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun Bettman confirms NHLPA made three counter proposals. Says none of them "even began to approach 50-50." Not encouraged
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun Bettman calls it a "step backward."
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun "I am to say the least totally disappointed." - Bettman

Sigh. :argh:

Edited by Amberite, 18 October 2012 - 02:56 PM.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 02:55 PM

Screw the players. Not even making an attempt.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 02:56 PM

I was on the PA's side but they clearly don't care to really get a deal done.. Screw the players
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 02:58 PM

looks like no hockey anytime soon
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 03:04 PM

Wonder how the shills for the PA will explain this one.
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