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Lockout 2012-2013 (Hockey's back!)

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Poll: Lockout 2012-2013 (Hockey's back!) (130 member(s) have cast votes)

When will we see hockey?

Oct 12 (10 votes [7.69%])
Percentage of vote: 7.69%
Nov 12 (19 votes [14.62%])
Percentage of vote: 14.62%
Dec 12 (26 votes [20.00%])
Percentage of vote: 20.00%
Jan 13 (33 votes [25.38%])
Percentage of vote: 25.38%
Feb 13 (1 votes [0.77%])
Percentage of vote: 0.77%
Mar 13 (0 votes [0.00%])
Percentage of vote: 0.00%
Apr 13 (0 votes [0.00%])
Percentage of vote: 0.00%
Oct 13 (14 votes [10.77%])
Percentage of vote: 10.77%
Never (27 votes [20.77%])
Percentage of vote: 20.77%

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#781 DevsMan84

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:11 PM

More waiting.....

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#782 MadDog2020

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:18 PM

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Fan who confronted Bettman: Jaymes Hall from Lancaster PA. Flyers fan. Bettman actually handled it well.

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#783 Zubie#8

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:21 PM

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Fan who confronted Bettman: Jaymes Hall from Lancaster PA. Flyers fan. Bettman actually handled it well.

Good for him, the fans deserve to be heard! And kudos for Bettman for acknowledging him.

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#784 NJDevs4978

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:22 PM

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Yeah Gary, it's as the union's fault when you're still in the middle of a natural hat trick of lockouts.

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#785 MadDog2020

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:22 PM

Good for him, the fans deserve to be heard! And kudos for Bettman for acknowledging him.

. Yeah, I figured they would've just hauled him out of there lol. Bettman I'm sure figured he'd win some brownie points with the fans by humoring the guy.

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#786 halfsharkalligatorhalfman

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:23 PM

im serious here... just looking at what happened to Dimebag... i can't believe that it couldnt happen to Bettman. Again... im absolutely serious. I'm SURE there's crazy enough fans out there with mental problems that could do it. I'd be really really stressed if i was him

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#787 Triumph

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:39 PM

Odds he is an NHL plant are around +200 but I'd be curious what the media have to say about it

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#788 halfsharkalligatorhalfman

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:45 PM

Odds he is an NHL plant are around +200 but I'd be curious what the media have to say about it

Really? I can't imagine the NHL getting together and thinking: "Ok now after we reject the proposal, let's have an everyman NHL fan come in and Bettman can heroically explain the NHL's position to him!" That seems absurd, even for this CBA fight.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:47 PM

Really? I can't imagine the NHL getting together and thinking: "Ok now after we reject the proposal, let's have an everyman NHL fan come in and Bettman can heroically explain the NHL's position to him!" That seems absurd, even for this CBA fight.

I'm actually surprised Bettman wasn't accosted by a fan before this. Hell, I'm shocked Fehr hasn't been either. Well maybe they have been but not with cameras around though in this day and age everyone has a camera

Edited by NJDevs4978, 21 November 2012 - 04:48 PM.

"The Devils have high standards, that's the difference. We have a standard to live up to every year, and a couple of teams in our area don't have the standards we do." - Pat Burns

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-NHL record for most road wins in the playoffs - 10-1 in '95 and 10-2 in '00
-NHL record for most home wins in the playoffs - 12-1 in '03

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#790 MadDog2020

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:51 PM

Really? I can't imagine the NHL getting together and thinking: "Ok now after we reject the proposal, let's have an everyman NHL fan come in and Bettman can heroically explain the NHL's position to him!" That seems absurd, even for this CBA fight.

. Seriously. The guy wasn't a plant lol.

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#791 Jas0nMacIsaac

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:52 PM

I was thinking that as well, the owners are getting crushed in the PR war. I wonder if this encounter ended in a hug/hand shake for newspapers.

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#792 Devil Dan 56

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:00 PM

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#793 Zubie#8

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:09 PM

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And Bettman stop talking to the media. I wanna 'make whole' in your fkn head.

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Edited by Zubie#8, 21 November 2012 - 05:09 PM.

“I think winning against them in the big stage, not just for me, but for the fans of New Jersey, people that are supporting us and always take a second seat to these guys for whatever reason, now they’ve got to be pretty happy going to work and going to school and doing all their things that they do." - Martin Brodeur

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#794 Devils731

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:11 PM

Del Zotto has been in hysterics as well

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#795 Triumph

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:13 PM

I said +200, not -200, but still wouldn't put it past them. It's not like the guy threw a punch, probably threw up softball questions

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#796 NJDevs4978

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:14 PM

I was thinking that as well, the owners are getting crushed in the PR war. I wonder if this encounter ended in a hug/hand shake for newspapers.

Yeah well the players are digging their own grave with all these dumb twitter comments. It truly is a pox on both their houses time.

I've never been more glad that Lou forbids players from using Twitter than I am now. This stuff is hard enough to stomach now, it'd be ten times worse if it were Devil players acting like they were five years old and Vanderbeek being a hypocrite like Jacobs/Leipold.

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#797 MadDog2020

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:26 PM

Yeah well the players are digging their own grave with all these dumb twitter comments. It truly is a pox on both their houses time.

I've never been more glad that Lou forbids players from using Twitter than I am now. This stuff is hard enough to stomach now, it'd be ten times worse if it were Devil players acting like they were five years old and Vanderbeek being a hypocrite like Jacobs/Leipold.

. I knew sh!t would get ugly this time around with Twitter. Can you imagine if there was Twitter 8 years ago with all the cap/no cap back and forth? Lmao, that would've been entertaining.

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#798 halfsharkalligatorhalfman

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:26 PM

FWIW

http://www.nydailyne...er-saying-nhl-n

Here is the exchange:

HALL: “Put the money (in dispute) aside so nobody touches it and let the people get back to playing hockey. Eventually that pot’s going to build. But the guy who makes money selling parking spots – let him get back to making a living.”

BETTMAN: “The impact that this is having on everybody associated with the league is not lost on us. Believe me. But the fact of the matter is, when you’re dealing with a union and they’re really not trying to negotiate any deal that you can live with for the long-term health of this game, there isn’t much else you can do. And we’re hoping that with the passage of time, the players’ association will come to realize that what we have proposed is more than fair. And the fact that we’re keeping this proposal on the table, when it was contingent upon an 82-game schedule, should be evidence of our desire to get this done the right way.”

HALL: “The $18 million a day you’re losing. There’s got to be a smarter way.”

BETTMAN: “It makes no sense (meaning it makes no sense continuing to lose that money each day). But thank you for being a fan.”

HALL: “I appreciate it, and I apologize for raising my voice.”

BETTMAN: “No, no, no. Happy Thanksgiving.”

HALL: “Thanks for your time.”