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#281 Daniel

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 03:57 PM

I listen to a video describing Barkov asset and how good he is... the guy was quoting David Conte scout of the new jersey Devils at the and sayong how good he was...

 

 

 

Depressing that he's just out of reach.  Although perhaps the fact that Conte is so high on him might lead Lou to bring out the big guns to trade up to get him. 


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:02 PM

Depressing that he's just out of reach.  Although perhaps the fact that Conte is so high on him might lead Lou to bring out the big guns to trade up to get him. 

Which brings up an interesting point. Let's say for some reason NJ ends up with Mackinnon, Barkov, Monahan or Lindholm (all centers who are close to if not NHL ready), what do we do? Right now, we have Zajac, Loktionov, Josefson, Gionta and Henrique at the pivot. I think Henrique should be used at wing and Gio should either be the 13th forward or move to wing. But still, you either have to trade one of JJ or Lokti or not resign them. It's clear that JJ should not be used in a fourth line role and I doubt Lou wants 3 guys under 23 centering lines


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:30 PM

Which brings up an interesting point. Let's say for some reason NJ ends up with Mackinnon, Barkov, Monahan or Lindholm (all centers who are close to if not NHL ready), what do we do? Right now, we have Zajac, Loktionov, Josefson, Gionta and Henrique at the pivot. I think Henrique should be used at wing and Gio should either be the 13th forward or move to wing. But still, you either have to trade one of JJ or Lokti or not resign them. It's clear that JJ should not be used in a fourth line role and I doubt Lou wants 3 guys under 23 centering lines

 

That would be a good problem to have.  You can never have enough strength down the middle. 


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:35 PM

Which brings up an interesting point. Let's say for some reason NJ ends up with Mackinnon, Barkov, Monahan or Lindholm (all centers who are close to if not NHL ready), what do we do? Right now, we have Zajac, Loktionov, Josefson, Gionta and Henrique at the pivot. I think Henrique should be used at wing and Gio should either be the 13th forward or move to wing. But still, you either have to trade one of JJ or Lokti or not resign them. It's clear that JJ should not be used in a fourth line role and I doubt Lou wants 3 guys under 23 centering lines

 

I don't think Lou would care what age they were as long as they were effective at the position.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:43 PM

Which brings up an interesting point. Let's say for some reason NJ ends up with Mackinnon, Barkov, Monahan or Lindholm (all centers who are close to if not NHL ready), what do we do? Right now, we have Zajac, Loktionov, Josefson, Gionta and Henrique at the pivot. I think Henrique should be used at wing and Gio should either be the 13th forward or move to wing. But still, you either have to trade one of JJ or Lokti or not resign them. It's clear that JJ should not be used in a fourth line role and I doubt Lou wants 3 guys under 23 centering lines

 

in a perfect world Gio shouldnt be in the NHL if you have a deep team


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:44 PM

Henrique should definitely be converted to a winger at this point, but there's also the option of converting Josefson. I know he has played strictly center since being drafted by the Devils, but I remember him being listed as a center/winger before the draft. If the team is faced with having 5 centers for the top 3 center spots in Zajac, Josefson, Loktionov, Henrique, and Barkov/MacKinnon/Monahan (I've heard Lindholm plays RW sometimes), I'm sure there wouldn't be too much of a problem in having a couple of those guys play the wing. I only propose this idea over a possible trade because every single one of those guys has pretty low trade value now, and are likely to have better seasons in the next couple years.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:47 PM

I'm trying to toy with our roster next year IF we should get one of the centers in the draft:

 

Zubrus-Loktionov-Kovalchuk

Elias-Zajac-Clarkson

Henrique-Josefson-D'Agostini

CBGB

 

Even if you dont resign D'Ags, I highly doubt Josefson or Henrique would play the right side. They're probably going to have to move one of Loktionov or JJ either way you slice it


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 07:55 PM

Next year, ideally I'd think they're looking at:

xxxx-loktionov-kovalchuk
elias-zajac-clarkson
henrique-josefson-zubrus
carter-gionta-bernier

The key is finding that 1st line winger and replacing gionta. One of these top forward picks could end up w/ loktionov and kovalchuk
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 08:14 PM

Next year, ideally I'd think they're looking at:
xxxx-loktionov-kovalchuk
elias-zajac-clarkson
henrique-josefson-zubrus
carter-gionta-bernier
The key is finding that 1st line winger and replacing gionta. One of these top forward picks could end up w/ loktionov and kovalchuk


Or a RW not as if kovy cant go back to his natural position instead of putting 2 wingers on their off wings
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 08:44 AM

Or a RW not as if kovy cant go back to his natural position instead of putting 2 wingers on their off wings

 

I don't think Kovy is moving back to LW as long as PDB is the coach, no matter what the situation is. 


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 09:36 AM

I'm trying to toy with our roster next year IF we should get one of the centers in the draft:

 

Zubrus-Loktionov-Kovalchuk

Elias-Zajac-Clarkson

Henrique-Josefson-D'Agostini

CBGB

 

Even if you dont resign D'Ags, I highly doubt Josefson or Henrique would play the right side. They're probably going to have to move one of Loktionov or JJ either way you slice it

 

I may be mistaken, but didn't Henrique center Josefson in Albany for a bit and Henrique didn't find his game until he got moved to wing? 


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 12:40 PM

Next year, ideally I'd think they're looking at:

xxxx-loktionov-kovalchuk
elias-zajac-clarkson
henrique-josefson-zubrus
carter-gionta-bernier

The key is finding that 1st line winger and replacing gionta. One of these top forward picks could end up w/ loktionov and kovalchuk

 

 

Someone on HF suggested the following trade with the Sabres. Both Sabres and Devils fans found this to be fair:

 

2013 1st
2014 2nd (conditional - becomes 5th if Vanek does not re-sign)
Jon Merril
 

For

 

Thomas Vanek
Luke Adam
2014 2nd (conditional - if Vanek does not re-sign)


Basically:

If Vanek re-signs: 1st + Merril + 2nd for Vanek
If Vanek doesn't sign: 1st + Merril for Vanek + 2nd

 

Now this would kill two birds with one stone in that we get the Gionta replacement and first line winger. The lines I would assume as follows (and also assuming we let Poni walk and we resign the rest of our FAs)

 

Vanek-Lotki-Kovalchuk
Elias-Zajac-Clarkson
Zubrus-Henrique-D'Agostini

Carter-Adam-Bernier

 

Extras: Gionta, Barch, YaYo.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 01:10 PM

Someone on HF suggested the following trade with the Sabres. Both Sabres and Devils fans found this to be fair:
 
2013 1st
2014 2nd (conditional - becomes 5th if Vanek does not re-sign)
Jon Merril
 
For
 
Thomas Vanek
Luke Adam
2014 2nd (conditional - if Vanek does not re-sign)

Basically:
If Vanek re-signs: 1st + Merril + 2nd for Vanek
If Vanek doesn't sign: 1st + Merril for Vanek + 2nd
 
Now this would kill two birds with one stone in that we get the Gionta replacement and first line winger. The lines I would assume as follows (and also assuming we let Poni walk and we resign the rest of our FAs)
 
Vanek-Lotki-Kovalchuk
Elias-Zajac-Clarkson
Zubrus-Henrique-D'Agostini
Carter-Adam-Bernier
 
Extras: Gionta, Barch, YaYo.


Too much. 1 year of Vanek is not worth two 1st round picks and that is what Merrill is. Furthermore, Devils can't trade next year's 2nd when they don't have a first.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 01:22 PM

Too much. 1 year of Vanek is not worth two 1st round picks and that is what Merrill is. Furthermore, Devils can't trade next year's 2nd when they don't have a first.

 

You could always work out an extension ahead of time.  Ultimately though, I would want to wait as long as possible to see who's available when we pick.  Of course, this all goes out the window if we somehow win the lottery.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 01:31 PM

Hate that trade, if they trade the 2013 1st round pick they have to forfeit the 2014 1st round pick.
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Posted 24 April 2013 - 01:39 PM

You could always work out an extension ahead of time.  Ultimately though, I would want to wait as long as possible to see who's available when we pick.  Of course, this all goes out the window if we somehow win the lottery.

 

We have what? a 0.08% chance right now? It would be something though to win the draft lottery twice in three years.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 01:58 PM

We have what? a 0.08% chance right now? It would be something though to win the draft lottery twice in three years.

 

Steve Tambellini is unimpressed.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 02:09 PM

Steve Tambellini is unimpressed.

 

Lol Tambo. I actually want him to play in the Devils alumni game at Yankees Stadium (which won't happen). If he get's any posistion higher then a scouting job again I'll be shocked.


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Posted 24 April 2013 - 02:43 PM

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Posted 24 April 2013 - 05:43 PM

Screw vanek. Maybe the wild but out Heatley and we get him for free. Would have to send Zach a big thank you card
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