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[MadDog2020]

I bet CBJ management and ownership says "hey Scott...let John Davidson handle these picks. C'mon, he's new to the franchise, help him feel at home".

. Ah, true- forgot JD went there. Thanks, lockout.

[thefiestygoat]

I always figure this time of year is fun as we move closer to the 2nd half of the season and the upcoming WJHC which could make or break a lot of prospects status. Here are a few rankings that came out this month, it should be interesting to see how different (if different) they look in January.

Craig Button's Top 75 (thru 12/4/12, next list 1/7/13)
International Scouting Services December Ranking (uploaded 12/15/12)
Hockey Prospect December Rankings (uploaded 12/14/12)
Future Considerations Rankings (think these are still November's)

[SMantzas]

I'd be hesitant to take Drouin. Is he piggybacking off Mackinnon?

[Jas0nMacIsaac]

I'd be hesitant to take Drouin. Is he piggybacking off Mackinnon?

No,he creates his own offense. His defense is weak however and he is soft on the boards.

[SterioDesign]

I'd be hesitant to take Drouin. Is he piggybacking off Mackinnon?

Just like Henrique was with Hall ?

[SterioDesign]

plus he's probably go in the top 5/10 in the draft so i dont think we'll have a shot at him

[SMantzas]

Just like Henrique was with Hall ?

Just like Marc-Antoine Pouliot with Crosby?

[Triumph]

Kris Chucko and Travis Zajac, Pavel Brendl and Brad Moran, Dylan Gyori and Scott Gomez, Justin Shugg and Hall/Henrique, Greg Nemisz and same - there's plenty of examples of players hard to separate from team effects.

[Daniel]

Just like Marc-Antoine Pouliot with Crosby?

Or Brad Richards with LeCavalier. Otherwise, I agree with Tri. Prospects have or don't have success in the NHL in their own right, not because of who they played with in junior.

[SMantzas]

Or Brad Richards with LeCavalier. Otherwise, I agree with Tri. Prospects have or don't have success in the NHL in their own right, not because of who they played with in junior.

Agreed. Sometimes it's difficult to differentiate whether the prospect creates their own offense or leaches off another. I guess that's why we have scouts

[thefiestygoat]

Future Considerations: December Rankings

[Jerseydevils0324]

Anyone have input on Frederik Gauthier, his 6-5 frame stands out. Ranked in the late 1st round, could be a potential pick for us, considering we will probably be drafting later. Or Curtis Lazar. His stock seems to be dropping, but from what I've heard he's a great player. Then again, centre may be the least of our needs on offense, even though centres can be interchangeable on the wing.

[Jas0nMacIsaac]

Lazar is essentially Josefson, elite defense with developing offense. I haven't seen Gauthier play so no comment.

[Jerseydevils0324]

Gauthier could be a potential Zubrus replacement down the road based on size and position. Maybe even better than Zubie if we develop him right, and not rush him into the NHL like the Flyers did with Zubz. And I wouldn't mind having another Josefson like player in the system

Edited by Jerseydevils0324, 21 December 2012 - 12:09 PM.

[Marshall]

Lazar is essentially Josefson, elite defense with developing offense. I haven't seen Gauthier play so no comment.

Would be good to have once Zajac bolts!

[Brandon]

Gauthier would be interesting if he develops the right way, if he can use his big frame to his advantage like a player like Lucic does he could turn into a fairly good player at the NHL level.

[SMantzas]

Gauthier would be interesting if he develops the right way, if he can use his big frame to his advantage like a player like Lucic does he could turn into a fairly good player at the NHL level.

Meh, he sounds a lot like Matteau. Better to go with a more skilled forward

[Brandon]

Meh, he sounds a lot like Matteau. Better to go with a more skilled forward

Gotta admit having at least one tough, grind-it-out line would make us a tougher team to play against. Matteau - Gauthier (if developed right like I said) - Clarkson is a line that sounds very hard to play against, they could all hit and score.

[ATLL765]

Gotta admit having at least one tough, grind-it-out line would make us a tougher team to play against. Matteau - Gauthier (if developed right like I said) - Clarkson is a line that sounds very hard to play against, they could all hit and score.

You have to assume that getting either of those two onto the ice and perform at a level warranting a full time spot, even assuming we'd draft Gauthier, is going to take a good 3-5 years, so who knows what would be going on then. Almost always the better bet to take the more skilled player. You can teach hockey, can't teach natural talent.

[Triumph]

You have to assume that getting either of those two onto the ice and perform at a level warranting a full time spot, even assuming we'd draft Gauthier, is going to take a good 3-5 years, so who knows what would be going on then. Almost always the better bet to take the more skilled player. You can teach hockey, can't teach natural talent.

This, but also the Devils have somewhere in the system, Henrique, Josefson, Matteau, Black, Coleman, and Pietila. I won't say that their bottom lines are covered 3-5 years down the road, but it certainly looks like some of these guys will be productive NHLers. Tedenby is in the process of being a bust and there isn't much else in the way of skilled forwards - Gavrus, Kerfoot, I guess - they desperately need them.