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#141 maxpower

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 02:01 PM

If the 05 bingo lottery was rigged, Crosby would be playing for the Rangers.    They were one of the teams that had the "best shot" of landing him, as much as you can have a best shot in a 3-2-1 ball weighted lottery.


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 02:28 PM

If the 05 bingo lottery was rigged, Crosby would be playing for the Rangers. They were one of the teams that had the "best shot" of landing him, as much as you can have a best shot in a 3-2-1 ball weighted lottery.


Ah, but you see, that's exactly what they want you to think.


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 03:28 PM

There's no need for the NHL to prop up the Rangers through the draft, they get the hype machine going themselves through FA every year.  Pittsburgh getting Crosby was like a monarch passing off the throne to the next king, in a market that needed it.


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Posted 07 April 2013 - 03:39 PM

There's no need for the NHL to prop up the Rangers through the draft, they get the hype machine going themselves through FA every year.  Pittsburgh getting Crosby was like a monarch passing off the throne to the next king, in a market that needed it.

 

And what happened once they dropped the puck?   The Rangers were a disaster zone before that lockout.   Pittsburgh is a nothing market.   If they moved the team, especially then, no one would notice the difference.


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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:07 PM

April's version of Craigslist is out.

 

Top 10:
 

1. D Seth Jones (Portland - WHL)
2. LW Jonathan Drouin (Halifax - QMJHL)
3. C Nathan MacKinnon (Halifax - QMJHL)
4. C Aleksander Barkov (Tappara - FIN)
5. LW Valeri Nichushkin (Chelijabinsk 2 - RUS)
6. D Darnell Nurse (Sault Ste. Marie - OHL)
7. C Sean Monahan (Ottawa - OHL)
8. C Elias Lindholm (Brynas - SWE)
9. G Zachary Fucale (Halifax - QMJHL)
10. C/LW Max Domi (London - OHL)

Random thoughts - Interesting to see Button has C Curtis Lazar slipping from 23 to 28 in his rankings. He's still a guy I could see the Devils targeting for his strong 2 way game. Button continues to rank D Jordan Subban in the upper 2nd round. LW Emile Poirier jumps into 38th from being unranked previously. D Madison Bowey (Damon Severson's teammate) slides back to 43 from previously being at 34. He's another guy I could see being a target of the Devils on draft day. Reece Scarlett's D partner, Dillon Heathrington, enters at 65. One of my favorite prospects RW Hudson Fasching continues to stay at 75. Big, powerful winger out the USNTDP whose heading to Minnesota - I'd love if the Devils could find a way to add him to the system.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 05:40 PM

Kovalchuk-Loktionov-Nichuskin

Seriously though, if we do end up getting a high pick Nichuskin is a bit too risky.

do you think nichuskin is risky because of the KHL thing, or that his skills won't develop as projected? Just curious
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:49 PM

Well it looks like this thread is getting more relevant with each passing game.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:51 PM

do you think nichuskin is risky because of the KHL thing, or that his skills won't develop as projected? Just curious

I believe he signed a 3 year deal with his KHL team so the soonest we would see him is 15-16.  Sort of like Tarasenko


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 12:00 AM

He signed it in the summer so that may hurt his final position and he'll have two years left if not bought out
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:32 AM

if the draft was today we'd be picking before Colombus... now let this sink in gentlemen... let this sink in


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:25 AM

Columbus has been very good this year though. We haven't. If we sucked more than Calgary or Colorado or Florida now thats a headscratcher.



Columbus has been very good this year though. We haven't. If we sucked more than Calgary or Colorado or Florida now thats a headscratcher.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:25 AM

Columbus has been very good this year though. We haven't. If we sucked more than Calgary or Colorado or Florida now thats a headscratcher.

Columbus has not been very good. They are getting crushed possession wise but have been bailed out by Bobrovsky


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:30 AM

They have played alot better this year then last where they are usually a usual write off for the season, this year they have a turned a corner, played better had a consecutive point streak that set for their franchise best and aren't a team to sleep on in the west this year. Who has "Not" been very good> Detroit is medicore now without Lidstrom.

 

Bob has been their savior and their starter fir their future. He's brung them hope. They have a pretty good d line not horrible, they have a rnagers line thats clicking.


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 08:47 AM

Who cares if they rely heavily on their starting goalie. Wish we could do that. Doesn't matter how you win as long as you get the W
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:24 AM

Columbus has not been very good. They are getting crushed possession wise but have been bailed out by Bobrovsky


Well what would you know, the goalie is part of the team and helps you win games, which is ultimately what matters, not puck possession, shots on goal, Corsi or whatever snake oil you want to apply that somehow tells you that a player that scores a lot of goals and a team that wins isn't "really" that good. Forests and trees.
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 09:57 AM

Well what would you know, the goalie is part of the team and helps you win games, which is ultimately what matters, not puck possession, shots on goal, Corsi or whatever snake oil you want to apply that somehow tells you that a player that scores a lot of goals and a team that wins isn't "really" that good. Forests and trees.

So Bobrovsky will continue to stop 93% of shots faced? Not likely


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 03:23 PM

Buzzing the Net: Scout’s take on the top goalies of the 2013 draft class

 

Highlights quite a few goalies from NA and Europe. I don't think the Devils need to draft a G, nor do I think they will, but if they do I wouldn't mind seeing if they could get Tristan Jarry late in the draft.


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 09:42 PM

so if the draft was today we'd be picking like 9th,10th,11th or 1st..... 

 

If we'd somehow win the lottery and have first pick who would you pick? Jones seems to be the #1 guy but i'd go for either Mackinon or Drouin. We desperately need help on offence and we're already set on D for awhile.

 

as for around the 10th pick... i'd still go for Domi lol i just have that feeling about the guy


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 10:23 PM

Well what would you know, the goalie is part of the team and helps you win games, which is ultimately what matters, not puck possession, shots on goal, Corsi or whatever snake oil you want to apply that somehow tells you that a player that scores a lot of goals and a team that wins isn't "really" that good. Forests and trees.

 

lol.  please bet with me on next year.  you can take teams based on goalie save percentages and i'll take corsi tied.


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Posted 12 April 2013 - 10:58 PM

Well what would you know, the goalie is part of the team and helps you win games, which is ultimately what matters, not puck possession, shots on goal, Corsi or whatever snake oil you want to apply that somehow tells you that a player that scores a lot of goals and a team that wins isn't "really" that good. Forests and trees.

lol. please bet with me on next year. you can take teams based on goalie save percentages and i'll take corsi tied.


I wouldn't make a bet based on any particular stat. I can use a little bit of common sense and conclude that a team that has lots of talented players is going to be more successful than a team that doesn't. And, I don't need to do a save percentage analysis to tell me that Bobrovosky is playing much better than he has in the past, but that he needs to show he can perform this well for a more sustained period of time until I can make the conclusion that he's a very good goalie that helps his team win games than with someone else.

Ultimately the difference between guys like me and guys like you is that I can admit that I have only a very rough idea about what teams will ultimately be successful and the degree of success. The guys that make things sound sciency are no better at predicting things than common sense and informed intuition.



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