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[95Crash]

Guerin was an a#$hole who pretty much banished himself. Arnott seemed to be the final piece of the puzzle for what was potentially the greatest Devil line-up of all time (although we didn't win the cup in 2001).

I had been a fan of Guerin from before he had his issues with the team. That's how it is sometimes, fans get emotionally invested in players early on and then occasionally things happen and it doesn't work out.

And Zelepukin, well who didn't like him.

Edited by 95Crash, 11 December 2012 - 05:06 PM.

[Chimaira_Devil_#9]

It clearly won't go down as the best, but the Bryce Salvador for Cam Jansen trade is always one of the first that comes to mind when this topic is brought up. It still feels like some form or robbery to me.

[sundstrom]

It clearly won't go down as the best, but the Bryce Salvador for Cam Jansen trade is always one of the first that comes to mind when this topic is brought up. It still feels like some form or robbery to me.

based on my criteria (eventual most for eventual least), this is actually might be the best trade lou ever made. good thought by you.

[NJDevs4978]

Same, although like with Kovy we didn't know that Salvador was going to re-sign here when we made the trade, let alone sign 'two' contracts with the Devils after being a lifelong Blue. And now we've had Janssen back the last two years to boot

[MadDog2020]

Great thread. Haven't read through it all yet, but there are some great trades to choose from. Kurvers to Toronto for their 1st that turned out to be Nieds is my personal favorite, but the Kovy trade is certainly in the discussion. How about Troy Crowder for Randy McKay? That was a great deal too.

[Devils731]

Great thread. Haven't read through it all yet, but there are some great trades to choose from. Kurvers to Toronto for their 1st that turned out to be Nieds is my personal favorite, but the Kovy trade is certainly in the discussion. How about Troy Crowder for Randy McKay? That was a great deal too.

Getting McKay was actually compensation for Crowder. Devils asked for Bob Probert and lost to get "stuck" with Dave Barr and Randy McKay

[MadDog2020]

Getting McKay was actually compensation for Crowder. Devils asked for Bob Probert and lost to get "stuck" with Dave Barr and Randy McKay

. Ah, that's right- forgot about that. Man, the system was so much different back then with RFA's and compensation for signing them. It would've been cool if we had NJDevs back then, there would've been some great discussions.

[lucifer91]

What was the story with Guerin, Manta? I don't really know the story all that well.

[MadDog2020]

What was the story with Guerin, Manta? I don't really know the story all that well.

. Guerin was a little bitch about his contract, and got in a couple of different pissing matches with Lou if memory serves. There was a reason we called him Dollar Bill.

[Triumph]

. Guerin was a little bitch about his contract, and got in a couple of different pissing matches with Lou if memory serves. There was a reason we called him Dollar Bill.

Yeah his agent made claims about how the Devils' style of play stifled Guerin's numbers. Meanwhile dummy Guerin had had a rotten playoff and his dumbness cost the Devils the biggest goal in the playoffs (game tying goal in Game 4). I was overjoyed about that trade even though I'd heard Edmonton fans moaning about Arnott.

[Devils Pride 26]

About the Kovy trade: Almost positive Oduya just signed his contract in the prior summer and regressed a bit. IIRC, he was great when paired with Martin but struggled with everyone else. I think a few of us started thinking that contract was going to be a tough one to move.

[TheMazz]

Morrison + Pederson for Alex Mogilny I would say is up there in regards to this talk of "Most important trade in the history of the New Jersey Devils". I'm shocked that wasn't mentioned yet.

Edited by TheMazz, 12 December 2012 - 01:30 AM.

[Jas0nMacIsaac]

In 1990 The Devils traded the No. 11 pick and No. 32 pick in the draft to the Calgary Flames for the 20th, 24th and 29th picks. Calgary moved up to draft Trevor Kidd and Vesa Viitakoski. New Jersey drafted Martin Brodeur, David Harlock and Chris Gotziaman.

[Chuck the Duck]

The Tom Kurvers trade to Toronto is No. 1, but there are so many trades over the years that the Devils made out on compared to those they clearly lost. These 2 threads show how good Lou really has been over the years, although his cap management (especially in the beginning) left something to be desired.

My father knew Kurvers a little bit when he played here and I remember, after the trade came down, how upset Kurvers was. He loved playing here and didn't want to go, but it couldn't have possibly worked out better for this organization.

[Daniel]

In 1990 The Devils traded the No. 11 pick and No. 32 pick in the draft to the Calgary Flames for the 20th, 24th and 29th picks. Calgary moved up to draft Trevor Kidd and Vesa Viitakoski. New Jersey drafted Martin Brodeur, David Harlock and Chris Gotziaman.

I wouldn't count that, and if anything, it was an unwarranted gamble on Lou's part. Devils traded down, and Brodeur was still available.

[Daniel]

. Ah, that's right- forgot about that. Man, the system was so much different back then with RFA's and compensation for signing them. It would've been cool if we had NJDevs back then, there would've been some great discussions.

IIRC correctly, the RFA compensation system was similar in that the aggrieved team was only supposed to get draft picks. The reason why the Devils were awarded a player in compensation for Stevens at least was because the Blues had traded too many of their future first round picks. I'm not sure what happens now when a team signs an RFA, but the first rounders aren't available. RFA offer sheets are rare enough that I don't know if the situation has even arisen in recent years.

[Colin226]

Best trade in my time since following the team closely has been the Kovalchuk trade.. Although I feel like I remember being excited the Langenbrunner trade yet sad to lose Arnott.. I tend to hate change so trades are rough

[Triumph]

IIRC correctly, the RFA compensation system was similar in that the aggrieved team was only supposed to get draft picks. The reason why the Devils were awarded a player in compensation for Stevens at least was because the Blues had traded too many of their future first round picks. I'm not sure what happens now when a team signs an RFA, but the first rounders aren't available. RFA offer sheets are rare enough that I don't know if the situation has even arisen in recent years.

You have to have all the necessary picks in order to sign an RFA. You can't sign one without them, nor can you trade your picks and then trade back for your picks to sign an RFA.

[sundstrom]

Morrison + Pederson for Alex Mogilny I would say is up there in regards to this talk of "Most important trade in the history of the New Jersey Devils". I'm shocked that wasn't mentioned yet.

important yes, but i'm not counting that because they gave up plenty to get mogilny. morrison had a pretty good career and pederson was serviceable for years.

[roomtemp]

important yes, but i'm not counting that because they gave up plenty to get mogilny. morrison had a pretty good career and pederson was serviceable for years.

Sounds like a third thread could be made... most fair trade in Devils history